MoC 048 Dr. Leah & The Acids

August 2, 2021

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Welcome to the Cannaba Verum podcast, the cannabis truth podcast. I speak the language of cannabis freely and uncensored, while educating my audience on the safe use of this live Plant Therapy. You should know what’s in your cannabis, what’s good and what’s not. It does not come with an FDA stamp of approval yet, using cannabis mindfully, as medication is a different concept in the healthcare philosophy of the past 100 years. There’s a lot to learn and consider cannabis is not dangerous, but it is not harmless, either. This is honey Smith walls, a 21st century cannabis shaman here to explain the language of cannabis in historical, political, and scientific terms, so you can make educated decisions about the medicine you ingest.

Honey 0:05

Welcome to the Cannaba Verum podcast, the cannabis truth podcast, I speak the language of cannabis freely and uncensored while educating my audience on safe use of this live Plant Therapy. You should know what’s in your cannabis, what’s good and what’s not. It does not come with an FDA stamp of approval yet. This is honey Smith walls, a 21st century cannabis shaman here to explain the language of cannabis in historical, political and scientific terms, so you can make educated decisions about the medicine you choose in real time.

Honey 0:47

Hey, my friends, I just wanted to remind you that Dr. Leah and I had been gabbing for at least, I don’t know, almost a couple of hours, and today’s episode is part of that conversation. So, if it sounds like we’re jumping right into something and you didn’t know where we were. The last episode was really great to go back and listen to it, and then come join us for this one as well, or listen to this one and go back and listen to that out, you know how the story goes, wherever you listen to Dr Leah, you’re just going to love her. She is a California pharmacist who is also an extremely studied cannabis specialist. So, we are taking advantage of her incredible knowledge, And she is helping us understand how all this chemistry plays inside of us, and with all the other prescriptions and the foods we eat. So it’s a real mix ology, and I want you to be aware that, You know I think we’re seeing the beginning of a new class of pharmacists, and a new relationship with those pharmacists, and the public. It’s, it might even be a clarion call to pharmacists, all over the nation. In fact, I’m sure of it.

Honey 2:31

Come on and join us now, you’re just gonna love Dr. Les if you hadn’t heard her before. And, oh, I want to mention as well, she gives her email address, which is complicated, and her text her cell phone number so that you can actually text her, and I just don’t know any other pharmacists or, or doctors for that matter who, you know, my personal physicians who would who would give me their personal cell phone number. And so I’m amazed at the accessibility to our dear Dr Leah and so grateful that she’s leading the way and showing us what a great relationship can be with a person of intense knowledge. And so, here we go. The Fabulous Dr Leah.

Dr. Leah 3:27

I was helping a patient the other day in a dispensary in New York. So great, awesome, you know, helping them out. So looking through the products in this dispensary and they’re all high THC low CBD. And I’m like, Who is this supposed to benefit, like, almost always, you use high CBD low THC because the CBD regulates the THC products. Exactly, so like I’m trying to work on this with this patient on, on, you know, to help them specifically with, with, like, specifically with ailments that would do better with a higher THC, CBD and much lower THC like almost insignificant THC. And all I’m finding is, like I found I found maybe two products with higher CBD than THC and I was like, This is ridiculous. This is absolutely insane. Like, I think people are just like we don’t know what to put in them so people like THC oh well CBD is important so we’ll just add some of that it’s like, yeah, it’s a mess and I know you’ve told me about Florida which has also made me slightly frightened. So

Dr. Leah 4:34

that’s the problem is is like, why are you coming like, I mean that’s the one thing I’ve never had to worry about so I never realized it was a thing to worry about because in California products make sense, I mean there’s, there’s, there’s one to ones there’s 20 to one, there’s two to ones there’s five to one there, they all make sense. There are THC only CBD only there’s THC and CBD, there’s CBG and CBN and like we don’t know what to pick, we’re just the patient. And that’s the problem is that and that was another thing so I’m very excited to say one of our members on the coalition of pharmacists, so all of us are pharmacists, but one of the members is also a lawyer, which helps a lot, especially knowing the exact regulations so pretty much in the state of California, at least, health care provider, healthcare practitioners or healthcare professionals are allowed to give an especially trained ones are allowed to give advice on cannabis use, even on even slightly on dosing use having to do with the patient, but what he specify we were not allowed to do is give a recommend a dispensary or give specific dispensary things because not only illegal but it’s like a sticky thing because then it’s like, I, he didn’t specify to me why, but my, my guess would be that then you’re like, kind of like biased towards that farm, you know that dispensary or something, so I’m not really sure what that gray area is there but that’s the gray areas, the, you know, not being able to really recommend so every time I speak with a patient because I like I said, as you know I’ve seen patients all through the, I will not see, but I, I hope I work with patients all through the US and I see them on our, on our zoom call I guess together. And then in the ones in California I actually started making house visits so if I have people in Northern California that really don’t want zoom and would rather have me come into their, you know where they live and work with them directly. I can do that as well. You know, things just change based on you know how often I would need to go there. But, you know, in general, that’s, you know what I do as well but but but, so I’ll have to kind of give them all, here’s like three dispensary options and here are the products at those three dispensary options which are similar to the, which are which are which are similar to the description of what you need to use so I have to like be so count wow like that is just oh that’s painful, it’s like this is a recommendation, I’m not telling you this is a recommendation, I’m not telling you what to do. This is a recommendation, I’m just giving you, when you choose what to do with your provider I’m not choosing that isn’t it literally well uncomfortable.

Dr. Leah 7:16

You know, the patient luckily the patients understand me well enough to understand okay well you know I don’t want to get you in trouble I know you don’t want to get in trouble so let’s just do it this way, but for a lot of patients they go. Wait. Well, which one out of these three dispensary, you know, so luckily what I usually do is I usually a dispensary before I even put them on a list of potentials because I don’t want people to feel that a girl, you know, but at the same time and I mean and I always say like I mean the one thing I could say to your listeners and what I say to everybody is. If you want to check your dispensary if you’ve got a couple around you and you’re not sure if you, you know how you feel about your dispensary, ask them, I’m looking for a sublingual product. And if they say what is sublingual mean you can just say under the tongue.

Dr. Leah 8:02

I feel that if they ask you what sublingual means you just need to turn around and go someplace Oh, they’re newbies so they understand they just, you know, we’re an educated on sublingual so I’ll even given the benefit of the doubt if they don’t know the words of lingo, you’re so much more gracious than I think you know sublingual and they’re like, oh well, like, What do you mean I’m like, oh, you know, something that goes under your tongue and then they keep looking at me kind of confused, they’re like, well we have orals like there are edibles that I that I, it’s like, nope, and sublingual isn’t edible it’s just not generalized as an edible it’s a fast sublingual or under the tongue means it’s a fast acting product. That’s why you’re putting it under the tongue as it’s supposed to absorb in the little blood vessels underneath the tongue. So that’s why a lot of these oils that people were like, put it under my tongue. I don’t really feel any different than before I put it under my tongue and then after about, like, an hour I start feeling it like okay because it’s not getting absorbed under your tongue because it’s obviously too thick or the formulation isn’t bioavailable through the little blood vessels in your tonic gosh there’s so so much they don’t know exactly, and there’s so much that like even the manufacturers don’t. They’re like, we’re just gonna use MCT oil because everybody else is using MCT oil but it’s like okay well what formula, you know, was it a full extraction was a partial extraction, was it a distillate was in an isolate you put them all back together afterwards, like, how, why, when, where, there’s so much to ask. And so that’s what I’m like saying for poor patients that don’t even know this information to first have to vet out somebody who knows what the heck they’re actually talking about then to find a dispensary that knows what the heck they’re talking about and to find a dispensary with good products, and then after all that to try to get better. I mean it’s literally, by not doing the proper regulations, we’re literally leaving patients to fail. That’s all we’re doing.

Dr. Leah 9:56

And I, I’m between telling between the improper information that cannabis doesn’t have side effects in proper information that cannabis is not. Can you can’t get addicted to it and that you can’t have. So, there are 100% cannabis interactions there’s 100 not all, but there is absolutely cannabis interactions, there’s absolutely cannabis side effects and absolutely cannabis overdoses[1] (1). And so, with this information being incorrectly given out, it’s, I mean I have had I’ve known a patients who I had somebody say to me, you know, my mom, You know I really, you know, had such an action which is really sweet of them. I really wish you had it, you know you were around back when my mom was still alive because, because, you know, she, you know, they didn’t know what to do for her and you know She just said she wanted benefits with her anxiety and she tried cannabis and got high and was so upset about getting high that she never touched it again instead it’s like we’re not trying to get this person high we’re trying to get this person dosed properly so to just throw them to a dispensary and, and they were using inhalable and they weren’t smokers, Oh golly, all of these things are wrong and what’s wrong. Exactly, so and I mean, there’s so many things that can happen there are interactions. So the best thing to do is talk to someone who knows what they’re doing, talk to somebody who knows what they’re doing and go through the real process of going to your primary care physician and Diag, letting them diagnose what your symptoms are, take that information in your records to a cannabis specialist doctor, who will know how to lead you from there. Exactly and that’s and that’s what we ended up the proper, the people who work the best are really the people who really explain, you know, this is, this is a partnership between myself and the patients also between myself the patient and their doctors. That’s right. We need to include their provider because if their provider doesn’t know they’re on board just like sadly a colleague of mine that his wife, sadly didn’t know that her taking her CBG she was taking could plummet her blood sugar so much. Her doctor didn’t know what she was taking and sadly she had to get rushed to the emergency room, because her blood sugar was way too low. And that’s why I always say to people like this is a medicine, like, I’m not saying that you can’t have flour be, you know, smoke inhalable flour be something that people want to do recreationally or adult easily, that’s fine, not the same. It’s not the same thing as a specific ratio edible that you’re taking at a certain time every day with a certain dosage and you’re monitoring for certain side effects, I mean it’s it’s completely a different concept. And that’s why I’m like, you know it can be harmful. Hope both can be harmful both can be helpful, and that is why I’m just like, that’s why I’m like, I every a lot of, I had a provider even say to me you know I don’t a I don’t believe CBD works. I think it’s placebo, and I thought another tried another provider say to me, oh well, honestly, like, you know I don’t really know about it so I just tell my patients stay away from and it’s like, well, that’s not giving them the best information there, those are two doctors who have not bothered to look at any of the science coming out of anywhere, Israel, Europe, anywhere, anywhere, and now we even have our own American random control trials right yep.

Dr. Leah 13:36

And that’s and that’s like my biggest thing is work with somebody who is willing to work with you, and I mean like and that’s why I’m like, I, I try to learn everything I can about meds because that’s my job is to be a drug expert so I know everything, you know, I know as much as the majority of people, and more about cannabis at this point. Obviously I know, same levels, clinical pharmacists about regular drugs. I also know the traditional Chinese meds I know herbal stuff, I know regular supplements, so many things that need to be incorporated because I mean, I had a patient that had out four or five different random stuff, you know like the ones on TV that say Oh, take this you’ll feel better. Oh, take this you’ll feel better and you’re like, they just fracture me. Yeah, like, I’m just looking at it like, Wait, this is just like water, but they’re marketing it as like health products, like for electrolytes, which I guess that kind of makes sense but not really like, why wouldn’t you just have like Pedialyte for your electrolytes.

Dr. Leah 14:35

I always recommend Pedialyte like over Gatorade just nothing against brand names just Pedialyte has natural sugar in it which better for you. But yeah, it’s just it’s like, it’s like, I mean, then again take drinking, you know, eight ounce glasses of water a day might also make you feel better. I mean, I, I just think it’s more like that rather than actually helping, is it really eight glasses of water, is it, it’s not it’s actually based off of, there’s actually a calculation based off of your weight, your height, your active level, and all this other stuff so I just stick with the eight globes eight glasses of eight ounce water because it’s like the average, but some people actually need to drink less. Some people actually need to drink more. I always need to drink more because I’m like, maybe one glass a day so I’m a terrible, terrible. Oh, gosh.

Honey 15:24

I know I check on you about that if you had water recently. Let me ask you this. I want to know if dropping

Honey 15:36

months of using RSO, you know, on a daily regimen to using a daily Kaina t, you know, straight from the fluorescence, the inflorescence would lower tolerance. What do you mean by cannot t.

Honey 15:56

Well, Dr Sulak says that you can just take a little itty bitty bud and throw it in a cup of hot, hot water and stir it around and have a sipping Canna tea every day. I’ve done, I did that I, He mentioned that during while he was our instructor for our certification course as well. I tried it and it, I mean it tasted like like herbal tea but like it didn’t really do anything for my anxiety or anything.

Dr. Leah 16:29

I think I think like as an herbal supplement like I don’t think you’re going to get by any means like addicted to that, I mean, also I mean I was a little skeptical because like I said I used to I used to do formulation. So when I, you know, when I see something that I know is oil soluble being still, you know, being kind of seeped into water reservoir and I’m like well, so on that site. So I really need a little drop of coconut oil in the water also to kind of help it, you know, do its thing and me better, but I’m not I wouldn’t worry too much about this. You can get tolerant from that because I also don’t think you’re getting, I’m not saying you’re not getting any cannabinoids from that because I think you are, but the amount, like, in other words if you’re using cannabis medicine like as medicine, then usually you’re having specific cannabinoids to help you with the ailment you’re looking for. So like for insomnia. Mostly it’s going to be THC and CBN. So CBN and CBD haven’t been seen to be anything you can get tolerant to but THC you can THC A you can’t but again, THC A has less of the THC effects it’s, it’s, it doesn’t have the tfca doesn’t have the psychoactive effects which is kind of what you need to kind of help you knock you out to then get sleepy, if that makes sense. So like CBD doesn’t doesn’t make you sleepy, it doesn’t usually like knock you out. It usually helps with you, you being able to sleep like right so it’s like it’s better for a long duration of sleep as opposed to trigger, you know, initiation of sleep initiation is more of the THC because it makes you kind of sleepy out of it and then that’s what helps knock you out. So, the problem is is the thing you become tolerant to is that psychoactive effects. So the tolerance is based off of the psychoactive effect guess I didn’t realize that I thought it was off of the THC and not the psychoactive effect. Well, that’s what people are looking for. So like when people are using it medicinal Li, it’s they’re using it for pain relief for example, but their pain relief is because it’s actually quieting the receptors in the brain and like like, like like, you’re not feeling the pain, but that’s because of the trigger on the brain that’s causing that but then that’s what you become tolerant to is the same with benzos, the same with pain meds. The only difference is the why you’re becoming tolerant to pain meds to like narcotics.

Honey 19:02

Okay, so I had to take RSO for months, months, I should still be on it. But damn, it’s hard to afford. Oh, you’re talking hundreds of dollars a month just for the RSO. And so I was wondering if I could get as much advantage out of the acids from just steeping, you know, Ubud in some water and coconut oil. And, but that doesn’t bring the acids out does it you have to do it in like oil overnight or something. Right, no, no, no. So, what changes the acid to the non acid form is a chemical reaction of decarboxylation so that’s right writing, which is heating it but that’s heating it to like 280 to 300 So you’re not going to get. Do that water won’t do that right Yeah, exactly. So, in the MCT oil would only bring out the cannabinoids that are already there. So, so, Miss. Miss. Actually, and this was actually just an, I actually just, I read this yesterday and Dr Goldstein’s book cuz I just really like to reread things. But another thing this is actually a, it’s a great it’s a great point to this is, she was explaining that. So is THC A is not a very stable compound in the flower right likes to turn to THC, very quickly, Ron Joyce Yeah. So, T if you ingest THC, like, like in a gummy if you ingest THC A, it doesn’t convert to THC in the body, readily. No, not really, like, like the percentage of what would turn to THC is very minimal.

Dr. Leah 20:42

Yeah, okay, right, it stays it stays the acid form, but in the plant form or if you light it or heat it up to the past that 250 to 300 level, then you’re going to start getting the decarboxylation which will then switch it automatically to the THC. But if we were to ingest the THC A it will stay THC A, and that’s why most people who have THC A don’t have farther down the line, you know over time having the THC effects because very little actually gets converted to THC.

Honey 21:15

Okay, so Dr Kymron DeCesare has an ancient recipe of just chopping up the flower and putting it in just as much olive oil, let it sit overnight on your counter in a baggie and then refrigerate it, and use about a quarter of a teaspoon, he’s actually got the whole thing written out in a recipe.

Honey 21:40

So now you can take advantage of the acids in the flour. However, after that, if I were to put that recipe into hot water, would it would I still be able to have the advantage of the acids from that hot water because the, the acids are so volatile so right, you’re not going to get, that’s what I’m trying to say so even in the plant. The plant changes to THC readily. Even with, like, on its own, like without lighting it.

Honey 22:14

Yeah, but, but when you process it in olive oil. It reserves the the acids… the THC acids, right, so it does but your spent the, you’re still gonna have more THC. THC in the plant than the acids. Oh, yeah. Gah.

Honey 22:39

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Honey 23:02

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Honey 23:17

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Honey 23:53

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Dr. Leah 25:22

Everybody assumes once you get I mean even the pharmaceuticals on the market right now, the majority I mean pretty much the majority of them that people use. It’s to prevent the degree degradation of the brain is not to help improve it, it’s just to prevent the breakdown. So like, like the NEPAD ZIL, which is Aricept That’s its job. Its job is to prevent the further breakdown to try to prevent it from you from losing, losing more of your memory, but it doesn’t help build it. So really what they’re showing is amazing studies showing the age showing to be protective and to prevent that breakdown but also showing that some of the mice who already had the breakdown actually were seeing better was you know better benefits and better results, and their memory was actually getting better, which I think is so important because everybody’s so focused on Oh, memory loss oh people are, and. And I will say that I am about to actually write a blog on LinkedIn, it will actually be my first blog so, because I’m pretty much making LinkedIn like I’m making sure I’m setting up a page for alcumus consulting on LinkedIn. And my focus really is the fact of people misinterpreting studies because that’s there was a wow, because right now I’m sure I don’t know if you’ve seen it, there was a big study, you actually might have posted, and, like, commented on it, somebody had posted a study showing that there was a link towards. Well first, the actual post set study said that there was a link towards use of cannabis in suicide. And when I actually looked into the article, I first I looked at the article and then realize the article was rubbish. So then I looked into the actual study. The study said, it may be linked to. In other words, they don’t know. All they did was a retrospective study, which is the study, you’re gonna get the least amount of information from you’re just really getting data and you’re compiling and making a hypothesis based on the data you collected. So they collected a lot of data over many years and showed for patients who have had committed suicide, and saw what was in their blood, and a good percentage of them had cannabis. So the article commented that it may be correlated, well, then the media, lost their mind and went into a frenzy and said, cannabis has been linked to a suicidal ideations and teenagers, it’s like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Dr. Leah 27:44

Is there a link. The only problem is what we’re looking at the link backwards, we’re not we’re not looking at Happy completely functional human being started using cannabis got depressed committed suicide. Yeah, looking at the background of the, they’re not looking at it backwards, how do a what medication are these patients on because a lot of antidepressants cause suicide. So they had just been started on an antidepressant that could have led to the suicide. A lot of patients might have been on cannabis to treat the underlining cause it like to say I’m depressed, I’m going to smoke because it makes me feel better. So it was in their system because it stays in their system. So what how many antidepressants are used off label for something else. Well, exactly. That’s what I’m saying, like, the issue is they’re correlating cannabis use to suicide. They’re not correlating depression cannabis used to depression, and that some of these people who are depressed commit suicide. That’s really the biggest difference is there, is the articles are making assumptions, the actual study said, this is something we need to look into further, further which I absolutely agree if there’s any results that show some similar to this, you should always look more into it and actually have studies of patients who, you know, hey, I have depression, I’d like to start using cannabis to see if it helps, and then monitor them going forward, how did it work for them you know when they started it you know there, you know and how to do a test, you know, for anybody who’s depressed depression, chronic you know who has clinical depression and would like to use cannabis for it, and monitor them, find out what’s going on and give them suicidal like charts and stuff like that to see you know what level they’re at, and that we will be able to see is, is cannabis inducing the suicide or is depression, inducing the cannabis use, which is personally what I assumed I believe that these, I believe that if we were to go farther in this study we would see that depressed patients have often turned to cannabis, just like Shaq curry Richardson, our nation’s best runner. Yep, you know. Yeah. All we did was penalize her for seeking out therapy that would not alter her mental status in the long term, like as a depressive performance right. I mean, antidepressants can mess up your, your ability to, you know, it messes with your brain chemistry so that can lead to other things. So if she decided you know what I know cannabis is effective for my depression. I know that this is the dose I use I am not mentally altered while using this dosage to help with my depression. So all she’s doing is using a more natural therapy to help with her depression that doesn’t affect her performance. If anything, you know if she were to have too much of her medicine, especially if there’s THC in her dose that she uses. There’s a really good chance that that he might be doing the opposite and might actually slow her down and make her tired, so you know if anything she was taking something that could be causing issue instead of helping her with her running. So I personally think it’s ridiculous to you know have any issue with, with the patients, trying to see, you know, proper medical help for an ailment they have it so I said we shouldn’t be. I even posted like we shouldn’t be recommending her we should be empowering her hoarding her exam, which is what I hope Nike is going to do. I know it’s still a gray area right now right they’re not sure what they’re gonna do with it they could, yeah, they could they could choose to support her, because it’s time, it’s the right thing to do it’s the right side of history, it’s the right side of corruption. Yeah, we have enough data at this point from many, many countries that are not united states that show benefits in human studies in cannabis, and obviously many many many animal but there’s also ones, in, in, again in countries that allowed that research to happen, you know like Israel like the United, like, British Columbia, like, like the Netherlands, they have a lot of studies because they want to know and they and they, and the problem is, is the United States we seen those studies we looked at those studies, they’re very interesting and beneficial studies, but that’s still not enough for us to move things to schedule one, I just got out of schedule one and I’ve heard way too many things about people going hemming and hawing about schedule a one verse, you know rescheduling versus D scheduling which is its own 20 hour long topic but yeah oh god yeah and there’s, there’s reasons for both, and I think that the problem is, Is, is that I think that everybody wants everybody wants an answer so everybody either goes, goes to the left or goes to the right and I’m not saying conservative or liberal I just mean like just directions, they go into separate directions. And what I say is, why are we choosing a direction, why not do Bo.

Dr. Leah 32:44

You can do it in the middle, all you need to do is d just reschedule until you get proper Canada cannabis regulation federally, and then the schedule, once you’re able to get the proper infrastructure in place, it’s really not. It’s the infrastructure that’s all it is, they just have to get a good infrastructure and the and no two states seem to agree on that. Yeah, exactly. I mean I end up with Connecticut. I will say I’m usually not a very I usually have very not nice things to say about Connecticut because I grew up there and I’ve had experience. But when it comes to cannabis regulation and policy, hands down, I 100% think they’re great, I’ve seen their packages, and I told you about those, I was blown away. Like, that’s and that’s and that’s like I said that’s that’s what the cannabis pharmacists Coalition of California is trying to do is fix the regulations get better labeling get better packaging, you know, get better enforcement on dispensary’s of what type of education they can give, make sure that they’re educated, make sure that or even better in my opinion, getting a healthcare professional, educated and cannabis in there to speak with patients or at least somebody on call, whether it’s like we have a patient in here who has a couple questions. We’re going to give them to the cannabis nurse the cannabis physician the cannabis pharmacist whatever it is, it needs to exist.

Honey 34:14

Hey, my friends, I just wanted to let you know that Dr layer will be back with us in the next episode. And don’t forget to look up her email and her phone number and give her a call, especially if you’re having any issues with a handful of prescription pills that you’ve been taking for so long, you can’t even tell where the problems are anymore. Go ahead and give Dr Alayah call let her help you with your prescription meds, by working in concert with your doctor. And if you’re interested in using cannabis, she can tell you how that would best suit you and which cannabinoid therapies to start looking at. Anyway, you know, she’s the science mind, you got to give her the credit, she knows what she’s talking about. Give her a call. Let her help you.

Honey 35:10

Oh, I forgot to say.

Honey 35:15

I get so tongue tied. I left all that information up in the episode description box, so look for Dr Leah’s email, and her text, phone number, oh my gosh, when’s the last time your pharmacist or your doctor ever gave you their cell phone to text. Anyway, look for it in the episode description and give her a jingle today,

Honey 35:46

you been listening to another Cannaba Verum podcast with 21st century cannabis shaman honey Smith walls, about the importance of using safe hemp and marijuana products, unless otherwise proven by a reputable third party lab test. Please be advised that all street weed is contaminated. It may do grave harm to a patient with a delicate immune system. I challenge you to check the veracity of my statements. In each episode by checking the medical citations posted on my blog at Cannaba verum.com. that’s cannabaverum.com.

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You’ve been listening to another Cannaba Verum podcast with 21st century cannabis shaman Honey Smith Walls, about the importance of using safe hemp and marijuana products. Unless otherwise proven by a reputable third party lab test, please be advised that all street weed is contaminated. It may do grave harm to a patient with a delicate immune system. I challenge you to check the veracity of my statements in each episode by checking the medical citations posted on my blog at Cannaba Verum.com.

That’s C A N N A B A   V E R U M.com

  1. plant specifically grows, the acid form, the THCa –  https://academic.oup.com/pcp/article/46/9/1578/1812749
  2. all street weed is contaminated: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5022003/
  3. Handbook of Cannabis for Clinicians, Practices and Principles by Dr. Dustin Sulak – https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Cannabis-Clinicians-Principles-Practice/dp/0393714187 and healer.com
  4. Certificate of Analysis (COA) https://www.pharmtech.com/view/certificates-analysis-don-t-trust-verify
  5. cannabis interactions, side effects and overdoses[2]  – https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3165946/\

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