CV 189 More Brandee Please

December 5, 2022

CV 189 More Brandee Please


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Hello my friends,                                    

This week we’re back for more details in the life of a Woman in Weed and what’s actually behind that curtain of the cannabis industry in Oklahoma, my beloved home state… yeeeeeHAWWWW…git on lil doggies…git git…

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Honey Smith Walls 0:00

Welcome to season three of the Cannaba Verum podcast, the cannabis truth podcast. I speak the language of cannabis freely and uncensored while educating my audience on safe use of this live plant therapy. You should know what’s in your cannabis. What’s good and what’s not. It does not come with an FDA stamp of approval yet.

Using cannabis mindfully as medication is a different concept in Western healthcare philosophy, specifically the past 100 years. There’s a lot to learn and reconsider. The information you’ll find here comes straight from the scientists and clinicians doing the work and reporting their findings in real time through various live online outlets. The scientific truth of cannabis is finally getting out and is wide open for all to see at respected medical sites like and JAMA, the Journal of American Medical Association (

I’m right there in the thick of it with all those titans of medicine as a fly on the wall. Because I’m not a doctor. I didn’t go to med school. I did take dozens of private cannabis courses offered by cannabis expert scientists online over the past few years and slowly began to see and understand the bigger picture.

Well, I can talk to people all day long about cannabis… and hopefully inspire them to research the facts as we know them today.

Cannabis is an amazing alternative in health remedies that can reportedly alleviate typical disease problems and troubling side effects caused by synthetic prescriptions. This is Honey Smith Walls, a 21st century cannabis shaman… not a doctor… not a scientist. Raised by nuns and wolves in the verdant cattle pastures of the Oklahoma oil fields. I’m here to amplify the truth of this great big story and language of cannabis in historical, political and scientific terms… so you can make educated decisions about the medicine you choose to ingest.

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Honey Smith Walls 2:17

Hahahahaha… Gosh I don’t know technology and how slow it is?

Unknown 2:56

There’s a lot of great ideas out there that probably are underfunded, let’s just call it what it is. There’s a lot of great ideas underfunded and so they’re almost there but not quite there. Yeah, you know, it’s just the way it is. It’s just part of it because it’s a new industry.

Honey Smith Walls 3:19

Yeah, but I see testing kits coming out too… soon. Yeah, sometime, you know, next few years.

Unknown 3:24

Yeah, we ended up sending that back…. like, I don’t know, like it’s not quite there for us.

Honey Smith Walls 3:31

You’re gonna have to test heavy metals and molds and mildews and pesticides. Yeah, just those four categories have subcategories, you know, 10 feet deep. So yeah.  Testing for each microbial factor or whatever is expensive and specific. So, having to do something that would test for all of those issues would be extraordinary. And very, I don’t know expensive.

Unknown 4:02

Yeah. Well, I started talking about all kinds of passionate things with you.  So we just, we decided what products we wanted to do. We knew we wanted to do a lot of different delivery methods. And so we just kind of did that r&d as we went along.

Like I said, in that realm, you have to decide what kind of ingredients are going to be used in formulation and who are going to be our suppliers for those ingredients and which things are we doing in house… which things are we buying up to a point… and then infusing…

So there is a lot of work that goes into that and not everyone has the same care… but like I said, if we’re going to produce medicinally focused products with a high medicinal grade extraction, we carried out that in our formulation.  

In our mind, what makes the best tincture… is MCT coconut oil and then it takes the alcohol out of the equation for for people who are alcoholic, and there’s just so many other reasons why I like that.

Honey Smith Walls 5:23

It tastes better… alcoholic tinctures are just nasty.

Unknown 5:27

It’s more palatable. Yes… and it’s more diverse for the patients in terms of what all you can put that in… you can put it in a shake or put it in coffee… you can put it on your tongue… We really try to think through what we were doing and not just slap it together. You know, I’ll give you another example… topicals are great but you can have the best cannabis oil in the world that you extract but if you don’t have the right ingredients in your bases, then it’s a waste because it’s not going to penetrate deep enough into the layers of the skin to have any effectiveness for the patient.

Honey Smith Walls 6:20

For the absorption to happen.

Unknown 6:23

Right. Absolutely. So you know also like chocolate, you know, what’s a big issue with chocolate? Whether or not it’s sustainably sourced and you know, all those kind of nasty things that go on in the chocolate industry as they do with many other industries.

Honey Smith Walls 6:47

Let me cover my ears and close my eyes and say nananananana I don’t know anything about that. Yeah….

Unknown 6:53

So you just have to take your brand to the next level, then you should be looking at as many of these things as possible. That’s right.

Honey Smith Walls 7:06

Don’t close your eyes and ears to the problems and issues in every industry. Every industry has problems and issues. Yeah, you know, there’s corruption in every industry. And if you can just get into the industry however you will but be careful, be cautious and be righteous, be honest. And and deal with the corruption when you can by shining a light on it and try to get rid of it.

Right. We just have to open our eyes and believe what we see again, and science has just been such a marvelous microscope and telescope for cannabis. You know, historically speaking, of course, it’s been here always and, and humans have used it always, but only until the last 100 years. Did they get so stupid that they prevented us from using it… so there it is.

Unknown 8:05

Yes. So that’s kind of all that we’ve been doing and then we got all of our base products out and then last year, toward the end of the year, we formed a hemp infused product company so that we could diversify reaching the people. There are reasons why some people don’t want to get their license to use… something about .03 THC and the cost of getting a license.

Honey Smith Walls 8:42

What’s it cost to get a license to use THC?

Unknown 8:45

You know, it’s a lot cheaper now… I actually don’t even remember what it cost. I just feel like you can always find deals here. But some people just don’t want to go through the hassle of it.

Honey Smith Walls 8:57

The medicinal route.

Unknown 8:59

Yeah, they don’t want to do it. I think there will be… when it does go Rec here… and it will eventually. I hope patients can find decent products. I hope more people who just were kind of like really intimidated by the landscape and the dispensaries that feels like, there’s supposed to be 1000 fold apart but it feels less. I hope that more people will get into trying it medicinally… I really do.

Honey Smith Walls 9:34

I don’t know how people can decide or determine who a good company is. If they don’t understand anything about cannabis. They don’t know what to look for.

Unknown 9:46

I think it’s very hard,

Honey Smith Walls 9:48

I think that’s why I’m so impressed with your website and how passionately you speak about keeping it clean and keeping it honest.

Unknown 9:59

Listen, Honey, we’ve been testing all along. When we first started, the labs were barely up and running. So maybe they were only going to test in the beginning. You know what I mean? Yeah, like even though it was in the State Question, like all of that took a lot of time to develop.

But at Bison, we tested what we could whatever tests were available. Yeah. And then we  scaled up as the labs scaled up. You know, and so, a lot of people they have no problem. I mean, actually a ton of people, like did not test in the beginning at all because it wasn’t being enforced. 

Honey Smith Walls 10:47

Yeah, watch that whole lab industry across the nation try to come up to speed, especially with standards, you know, and it’s just crazy to think that there’s no two labs that do the same COA on the same product.

Unknown 11:10

There’s tons of things we’re testing that have got to improve. I mean, yeah, we’ve got to go a long ways and that could be a whole nother phone call with you just because there’s so much… but the point is, we have always tested our products… even from the beginning.

But now there’s capability to do the full scale. And so that’s what we do. That’s what you’re legally supposed to be doing. So yes, that’s important… but also with a hemp infused product company, a lot of people should start with the least amount of medication possible in your body.

Honey Smith Walls 12:07

And for dosing, it’s your medication, we’re not going for the high when we’re medicating for specific issues. We’re going for the relief of the the side effect of that issue. And so it’s a whole different philosophy and mindset that people don’t realize in Rec.

Unknown 12:27

Right and so CBD products or hemp infused stuff… I want to just say CBD… because ours are full spec products… Yeah, get more than just CBD. Yeah. But if that’s what works for you, then perfect… that’s what works. It’s cheaper. Yes, for the most part, right? I mean a high quality product in a hemp based product. Yeah. So we did that.

Honey Smith Walls 12:54

Oh, do you all do acids?

Unknown 12:58

You mean like…

Honey Smith Walls 12:59

The acidic form of products? Like Dr. Dustin Sulak does…CBDa?

Unknown 13:08

Yes. So that’s one thing you’ll find with our extraction. Now we don’t isolate those. But in our strains, you could go look at our different oil results. And you’ll see that different strains will have it have in acidic form and it’s amazing. Yeah, I mean like I said… I listened to your turkey episode twice. And you were complaining about how you only see maybe four terpenes I think you said…

Honey Smith Walls 13:47

Yeah in the dispensaries  around here. Right?

Unknown 13:51

I mean, go look at our results, if its in the strain, then we’re capturing a wide range of cannabinoids and also terpenes.

Honey Smith Walls 14:08

Well, it sounds like it would be really passionately fun to work with you and your partner who is Necole Cantu… Yeah, and I’m just really seriously impressed with the work that you all have already done and how you know this path that you’ve chosen… or that really… I know that it chose you.

I know what that calling is like and what it feels like and it’s a marvelous calling. It feels real righteous to me, at least.

I saw something in your site that just tripped my LGBTQ trigger. I don’t know what it was, but it just made me feel like you’re LGBTQ friendly because… and I say that only because I saw something… I don’t know what it was.

I’m captain for one of the largest organizations across the nation called Equality Florida. There’s a Florida chapter and there’s chapter in every state. The LGBTQ community is very cannabis friendly. So I didn’t know if you were making any statements or if I just read something into something on your page…

Unknown 15:33

Well, Nicole and I are both gay.

Honey Smith Walls 15:43

Yeah, there was something that triggered me and it was the language you used that said, we’re an inclusive La la la la whatever it was. So that’s language that I’m familiar with in a way that the process out here to get people to settle down… because it’s very red out here in Florida. I know it is there in Oklahoma too. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it’s so red there in Oklahoma the fucking dirt is red.

Unknown 16:13

You know, I’m 51, I think Necole is 41. I feel like there’s 10 years difference between us and tell you at that age, anyone who grew up in Oklahoma, you’ve got some trauma from that, you know, and I’ll just say that.

In that community, there’s a lot of trauma. There’s oftentimes when people still today… this is not in the past… It may feel like it’s gotten better, but it’s still here today. A lot of times when people come out you know their families cut them off. And their trouble ends up being a lot of mental health issues. And there’s a lot of substance abuse issues. Yep.

Honey Smith Walls 17:10

Whatever’s legal, free,  and accessible. Yeah.

Unknown 17:15

And it’s just that we are passionate about being there for that community. And to one with cannabis education and we have an LBGTQ scholarship that we raise funds for all year long… on and off. And then and then it’s awarded more toward the pride time, but like all year long we donate products and have pop up vendor pop ups, where you know, people can make a $10 donation or sometimes a $5 donation and then they get a product for another penny. So nice. So we take all that money and then put it into a scholarship… and I believe it was like close to $3000. this year that we gave away. And so yeah, we’re passionate about being there with education about cannabis. I love and support and also just, you know, being out…

Honey Smith Walls 18:25

I’m, I’m still sitting here having a heart attack. Did you say there’s Pride in Oklahoma? There’s an actual Oklahoma Pride??? I I didn’t know…

Unknown 18:41

I cried because Oklahoma actually has one of the largest pride centers in the nation.

Honey Smith Walls 18:48

Shut up.

Unknown 18:49

No real for real very. Yeah, Oklahomans for Equality.

Honey Smith Walls 18:56

Oh my gosh, do you know what I usually tell people about myself… that I was raised by nuns and wolves in the verdunt cattle pastures of the Oklahoma oil fields. Yeah, yeah.

Unknown 19:08

That and you know, Tulsa especially. I mean, that’s where it’s located… is Tulsa. So you know…

Honey Smith Walls 19:15

God. I went to school at Monte Casino and lived at 67th and Sheridan between 61st and 71st. And I love Tulsa but I haven’t been back in so long I’m getting pains now. And, and knowing how it’s changed. Yes, that’s wonderful. And you know, there’s a map on your site showing where all of your products can be found. And I found two dispensaries that by my place and then I saw something that really blew me away. Something that said New Tulsa. What the hell is new Tulsa?

Unknown 19:54

I know that’s confusing to me too…if someone doesn’t call me from 918 because there’s a whole nother area code. I forgot what it is. Oh my gosh, I’m always tripped up by that. Yeah. You know what, I’m confused by that. I don’t even know what area codes to put. I grew up in Sand Springs, which is a suburb like 15 minutes away. But I live more in the Midtown area now. And I just love it. There’s so many exciting things going on here Honey,  like family and music. You know, oh my god. I mean, just like different things for families to do like different museums going up around music and oh my god, The Gathering Place, which is a large park system here. There’s so many great things happening here.

Honey Smith Walls 20:56

Oh, that’s fantastic. I’m so thrilled to hear this about the state.

Unknown 21:00

Yeah. So very neat things happening. But yeah, you know, Bison Extracts brand has a great, diverse group of people that work with us… creative people.

Honey Smith Walls 21:13

You mentioned that you wanted to do eventually, vegan products…  are you vegan?

Unknown 21:20

I am not.

Honey Smith Walls 21:22

I am. I’ve changed to become a vegan over the years because of health issues. So Right. But then, you know, but then I took an attitude about not wanting to eat something that I could look at and love.

Unknown 21:35

Yeah. Well, I said that more from the respect to just show you like we oftentimes get people say, Oh, I loved your chocolates. Most of the chocolate products… We infuse them… right now they are vegan, you know, but just the plain chocolate bar.

Sometimes we get requests on other things like gummies and it’s just certain funding levels, you know…to package it and all this that is required to get the product to market, even though I think those things are important. We have to find other ways. We can’t just do a gummy line for everything. Like instead… we would have to refer them to our hard pressed tablet/

Honey Smith Walls 22:23

Ohhhh, a hard pressed tablet. I saw that.

Unknown 22:26

Yeah, so there’s no sugar in that. So it’s just great. And there’s not a lot of other ingredients. So it’s a good medication for certain people. And so we try to have options to pivot people to.

Honey Smith Walls 22:54

you want to tell us about Monarch Medicinals?

Unknown 22:57

Yes, I do want to tell you about Monarch Medicinals. So as I said, you know one of the problems that we have here in Oklahoma is competing against very low prices… because they are typically low quality, very narrow spectrum products. Like there’s one thing and not that there aren’t additional benefits with just using THC but I’m just saying… you’re missing out on a lot. So what we have done is keep the price down by blending… so like we may get down to the last grams of oil that we have on hand of a certain strain… and it’s not enough to make a batch of what we’ve been using that oil for. And so we’d just be wasting. And so what we do is take over a period of time… the things that we’ve been running and combine those together, send it for a lab test… And so you know, you’re not using it like with our specific line, you’d be more dialing in to maybe a certain strain that you like, but on this we’re able to keep the price down because we combine it. But it’s still a full spectrum product. And if you’re on a fixed income, maybe you can’t do the Bison Strain Specific, but you still want a high quality medicinal product to use for sleep? You have an option.  And so right now we just have gummies… but we’re starting to do some other product development with that to have a larger offering, and those products in that product development, I would just be straight honest with you…that would be a place we might do something that seems a little more recreational.

Honey Smith Walls 25:07

Well, that’s where my head was going. Yes, like that.

Unknown 25:11

And I don’t have a problem with that.

Honey Smith Walls 25:14

I don’t either. My next question was sort of going in the area of who are your demographics…because out here in Florida… you know I hear all the time gummy this and gummy that… give me gummy gummy gummy.  I don’t use them. I tried using them. They tasted delish. I just didn’t feel like I felt anything. And you know what? That was several years ago and before I got my hormones fixed. And now that my hormones are fixed, I feel a lot differently and the effects of medication is way more effective for me now that my hormones are fixed.

Unknown 25:57

Well, I will say this to you, there are medications… don’t ask me the name off the top of my head… I’m the kind of person that takes in a lot of information. Yeah, and I may not be able to pronounce something. But like I know it’s out there and I can go look on my fancy phone or computer but there are medications that people are on that like edibles are not going to work with them.

Honey Smith Walls 26:21

Yeah, there’s some stuff going on with contra-indications of cannabinoids and terpenes and maybe medicines that the patient is already on. So yeah, there’s just a lot to think about and our poor elders are really so unaware. But oh, so hard market… you know your demographics? What are your demographics looking like?

Unknown 26:52

Demographic and the target market, Honey, it’s a sensitive subject to me. I’m not gonna lie to you right now. And the reason why is because the state is refusing to release my request through the Open Records Act… despite my request for demographics of patients… I’m not asking for the patient’s name. No out of this 10% of the population… What does this really look like? That’s what I want to know. Because what I think Honey, is the same thing that happened in the Oregon market if you go and analyze it.

Because they actually published more specific demographic information on their patients in Oregon and have for years… you can go out and really dive into it. What I think is the target market that really I would say like on the Bison side and on the ad side that we’re trying to reach, which is 35 and above… have not entered the market in droves. And I think it has to do with stigma.

I don’t think the way our landscape looks in Oklahoma right now… that we did anything to help with stigma. And so I think a lot of those individuals are sitting on the sidelines, and maybe they won’t ever enter until it goes Recreational which was really kind of, you know, a lot of the attitude in Oregon too. And when you look at the timeline of when that demographic entered it was more in like the fourth year, fourth, fifth year, which is where we are now because it takes so long to understand the plant and decide, okay, I’m going to try this.

Honey Smith Walls 28:41

So I think it takes longer for people of that age to realize they’re a patient…

Unknown 28:46

Yes. So it’s like, Well, what’s in the market right now… I think a lot of 35 and under. Yeah, that already we’re kind of familiar with cannabis, maybe already using it. And then but you know what? I think is gonna happen is that you’re going to see that 35 and above age range rise because quite honestly, they are the people that have the most issues right now with aging where cannabis could be so helpful.

Honey Smith Walls 29:23

Do you think they’re also more aware of trying to help their emotional issues in that era of, you know, that particular age bracket? There was such a stigma in my era… I’m 68 and especially in my husband’s era, and he’s 90… about getting help for your emotional state or, you know, anything like PTSD… I’m just trying to find the epiphany for every age bracket… you know… how can we help them understand this a little bit quicker. To understand that they’re going to have to become their own alchemist.


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Honey Smith Walls 15:10

Well, a big mystery, but now you’re giving me some emotional pull with this and I like that. You know, I like that if I came in… well, I went into Michigan recreational stores when it first opened up and it just terrified me… it was the biggest overwhelming feeling of “oh my god, I have no idea what to choose!”. Out of these 1000s of great big glass jars with junk in it and all candy wrapped… you know bazookas look and just big and everything was so in your face.

I couldn’t get past the packaging. Oh, there it is. YOUR packaging makes me want to go look a little deeper inside and read the details on the label. That’s the difference. Yeah, you’re not setting medicine up to look like candy. It looks like something I’m gonna take for relief.

Unknown 16:09

Right… so that’s another thing like when Necole and I created a brand when we first met each other… What do we want this to be like? We not only wanted to create high quality medicine, but we wanted to create packaging, which broke stigma. And I know that’s thrown out there a lot and it’s so funny because it’s thrown out there so much and it’s oftentimes thrown out there by people who are doing things quite opposite to that if I’m being honest. Yeah. Because my grandmother doesn’t want to go into a store and buy something that has ridiculous looking packaging. You know, it just doesn’t elicit confidence in the product. It doesn’t. And so that’s always been really important to us… to package it in a way that looks like a product, any product that you could go in and buy, you know, cosmetic product or medical product as much as possible, you know? Yeah. So that that has been a very important part of our branding.

Honey Smith Walls 17:20

Well, this has been such an eye opening chat about bringing up a cannabis operation on a shoestring budget and look at what you have done. Tell our audience Brandee, how they can find you online and how to order.

Unknown 17:41

Okay, so I you can find us on the cannabis side at  Just go to

You can also sign up for our patient email flow that we’re trying to get started. Because once you get there, then there are other links to Monarch Medicinals. And so you can get there and you can find how to follow us on all of our social media there. You know, we would appreciate just following us, you know, staying up to date on what we’re doing what we’re trying to do here in Oklahoma. There are not a lot of actual female owned and operated companies. But I’m still confident one day that’s going to be different for us.

Honey Smith Walls 18:40

Absolutely. You’re already on that path and living your dream… feel the success and appreciate it because you’re already manifesting that dream. You are and you’re doing it well. And you’re being not only a leader in cannabis honey, but a leader for women and that is one of the most important things I want to get across to our audience. You said it just a minute ago. There’s not very many women allowed to lead in this kind of corporate enterprise. No.

Unknown 19:18

There’s not a lot of funding either.

Honey Smith Walls 19:20

And there’s no funding. I mean, the more reason women…if there are any female angels out there, here’s a perfect target for your help.

Unknown 19:34

A lot of funding and all of cannabis but then if you break that down about how much is going to women owned and led companies?

Honey Smith Walls 19:44

All right, have you been able to get any grants for that?

Unknown 19:47

No, it’s all been our own funding so far. Okay, we’ve done a lot with a little and we have many, many, many creative ideas about what a brand could really look like. Yeah, with the right care, so we’re gonna keep being creative.

Honey Smith Walls 20:11

Oh, yes, you are and I am thrilled about it. Listen, will you come back and talk to us about your next big whatever it is… and stay in touch with us so that we can watch you grow and progress and follow in your footsteps and learn how to do these things that you know you’re doing on your own?

Unknown 20:34

Honey, I’ll come back and have church of cannabis with you anytime. Yeah. I would love to come back and talk about you know, what goes on in testing and, you know, all party like any subject you want to talk about and you want to hear, like a producer’s perspective or the problems that we’re having in reaching people. You know, anytime you want to talk about something, I just appreciate the opportunity because there are just a lot when I said this in my text…  there are a lot of snakes. Yep, a lot of snake oil salesmen. Yeah. And most of the time when people approached me remember how it took me a long time to answer you initially when you approached me through Alignable? Yeah, and then I said, I’m sorry, I had to go research you first. Because most of the time, people try to act like they’re gonna help me spread the good word, but then really all they want is money out of my pocket that I don’t have that’s the straight up honest truth. Well, so you… I appreciate you so much Honey and what you’re trying to do for people like our company… trying to do for patients.

Honey Smith Walls 21:56

Well, We’ve got a mutual appreciation club going on here because I just think you’re spectacular. I want to congratulate you both for what you’ve what you’ve already accomplished. And I see it only getting better for you because you know, the world is changing. We are uplifting a little bit.

Unknown 22:18

All right. Don’t forget about me Honey,

Honey Smith Walls 22:19

I won’t… you either. Thank you so much, girl. All right. Take care. Bye Bye/

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Roger Adams, U.S. Organic Chemist who isolated the structure of CBD,

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Over past episodes of Cannaba Verum, we’ve listened to some amazing scientists and medical professionals talk about their discoveries and patient successes as hundreds of questionable compounds rise to the public grasp. I am especially interested in the pharmacists movement becoming an integral part of this new medicinal choice.

Watch this machine roll into action through conversations with pharmacy doctors all over the nation like Dr. Leah Johnson and Dr. Codi Peterson out West and Dr. Alan Ao up North. There are so many more getting involved now… these are just a few who have come on my show to explain the situation and it’s fascinating.

You’ll find citations available on my podcast blog at

PS: Helping society get past the fear of using cannabis will be a lifelong journey for me. This industry is just opening up and most patients and doctors are seriously cannabis naive and need help understanding where to turn for trustworthy information.

If you need help opening that cannabis discussion with your family doctor,  please reach out and grab the Dear Doctor Letter I wrote for this exact purpose. It will explain your decision to try cannabis and ask for their help in monitoring your labs and progress. It will also show them where they can find medical research on the subject of your diagnosis and the effects of cannabis.

You’ll find that letter at  

My specialist in hormonal help: Dr. Genester Wilson-King, M.D. and Founder

Victory Rejuvenation Center – Orlando, Florida

My Neurologist and Cannabis Expert Medical Marijuana Doctor in Melbourne, FL:

Anthony Mazo, M.D.

Brevard Neuro Center

(321) 733-2711

315 E. Nasa Blvd.

Melbourne, FL 32901.    

All opinions are my own and should not be mistaken as medical advice.

(1) Microdosing –

(2) Concentrates –

(3) Cannabis Helps Dementia Podcast – Anchor.FM/cannabishelpsdementia

(4) Society of Cannabis Clinicians –

(5) Take the Pledge –

(6) Handbook for Clinicians – Principles and Practice –

(7) The Cannigma Podcast =

(8) Curious About Cannabis Podcast =

Show Notes:

Brandee Spillman of is back to tell us the rest of the story… a real peek behind the curtain of Women in Weed from Oklahoma. Join us to understand the heart of this industry from a certain Okie whose got our back with a great product.

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