MoC 015 What About Doctors?

December 11, 2020

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Unknown 0:02

Good morning Fiona

Unknown 0:04

morning honey How are you, I’m good.

Unknown 0:09

I’m so glad to be here with you today. Gosh, I need to talk to another girl,

Unknown 0:15

you know, how are you.

Unknown 0:18

Yeah, kind of just being stuck in the cave and, you know, just all that it’s just so juicy to hear another sweet voice and just chat about your life.

Unknown 0:30

And we’d like to welcome our audience back to another moment of clarity.

Unknown 0:36

Oh my gosh, I’m so grateful you always seem to remember to say that and I don’t thank you to your hard work. I always love to find out what you’re using because you get the best meds, and it’s so funny that that we have choices in medications like this isn’t it we don’t usually have a choice in our Bayer aspirin well wait a minute Yes we do. We can get it in orange flavored right yes. So they, you know, Western mids did do a little bit of that they also put flavoring in cough syrup so it wouldn’t be so bad. So we do see some, you know, bit of different flavorings for a more palatable flavor and Western medications, especially over the counter. But yeah, especially over the counter, but I do know that there are some prescription medications that come with flavoring too. So, so even though it may be a little odd to speak about our cannabis medications, in a way that we have choices that are fun to choose, I guess.

Unknown 1:56

I guess

Unknown 1:57

the novelty of that alone is is just a pleasing little, add on to the way you medicate with cannabis isn’t it.

Unknown 2:06

Well it is it I mean there’s just so many different varieties to choose from different you know strains from a sativa hybrid to, you know, indico leaning hybrid or to straight indika different count you know different levels of medications and concentrate levels and it’s just such a variety and I just, it’s exciting to be able to experiment, I guess you could say with all of the varieties we have.

Unknown 2:37

I think so too. I think it’s nice to will. And at this point, that’s all we can do is experiment. You know we’re our own guinea pigs, because there’s just there’s not enough, any trial, you know, they’re. Sorry. There’s just not enough clinical trials out there telling us what’s doing what for people. And as soon as 2021 gets here and cannabis explodes. Then we’ll begin having all of these wonderful scientific clinical trials to look to, to find out what we are really doing with cannabis, and the human body, and the animal body too. So what are you using today.

Unknown 3:26

I started out my day with rolling a joint dream crush it was brown flour. I’ve had that for a little while so I needed to use that before you know it started to lose its potency. And, yeah, as we talked about in one of our other episodes we talked about. Keep here. Cannabis stores flower, it can lose the potency to art so I looked at the date. I thought oh I better start using this I started out with that. And I recently went to surterra over in Port Orange, and I purchased a new product that I never tried before.

Unknown 4:21

Our Wi Fi just cut out I think you said you went you’ve purchased stuff in Port Orange.

Unknown 4:25

Yeah. And so, Tara. Yay. I’ve never tried there, concentrate in the float mind. And as we’re talking about sometimes containers are hard for us to open I was extremely impressed by this one. And I got the Girl Scout cookies, really,

Unknown 4:45

she found a good container.

Unknown 4:47

I did.

Unknown 4:49

I don’t know why that excites me so I’m so jealous that you can even that you can roll a joint my hands below and like

Unknown 4:57

I can’t I use a little, little, rolling device that made by raw. Oh, and you put you put your cannabis in you grounded up you put it in the rolling device, and you close it you roll it together and then you put the paper in and you roll it, and it rolls the joint for you.

Unknown 5:20

Can you find this little rolling

Unknown 5:25

film because that’s where I found mine was at the purple haze smoke shop in Daytona Beach.

Unknown 5:32

Oh, and I’ll bet, dispensary’s, sell them to I think I’ve heard of at least one selling you know their branded paper roller little device. I always forget about those haven’t used those since I was a kid, you know, but, but they’re really helpful for people with

Unknown 5:54

pain and advanced carpal tunnel and arthritis in my hands and so it’s really hard for me to do that pincer grasp where you grasp where you need to you know precisely roll to join I can’t do that. So, and, you know,

Unknown 6:11

the dog puppy bags. I can’t open those either can open a trad plastic away your finger and

Unknown 6:18

rub the paper, rub the plastic together separates it.

Unknown 6:25

Oh, that’s right, it actually does.

Unknown 6:27

But,

Unknown 6:28

I am just not.

Unknown 6:41

So I am

Unknown 6:44

sorry container that I found because dispensing it is extremely easy as well so not only do we have the container that opens really easy. We have the dispensing, that is, you turn it and you dispense it just comes out real easy and extremely impressed about this product and Girl Scout cookie is a great strategy so I, you know, it really helped me a lot.

Unknown 7:12

I’ve been hearing about Girl Scout cookie for years, and, you know, even had some before and it promises a nice delivery.

Unknown 7:23

I’ve actually read that it’s actually a really good strategy for Ms.

Unknown 7:30

Yeah, and boy. If you have any kind of named condition. I just want to challenge you to have that condition in Google with cannabis, you know like cannabis and Parkinson’s or cannabis and Ms or cannabis, and, you know, diabetes or anything, and see what the scientists have even asthma, yes have already proven about cannabis helping your condition. So don’t don’t don’t believe me, I’m just cannabis shaman I’m not a doctor who knows everything about your body, but you certainly can bind cannabis specialists doctors who have already given us plenty of factual information about cannabis in particular issues. Oh, do some research. Yeah, we were, we were thinking about talking about our experience. Finding a cannabis doctor.

Unknown 8:42

Yes. Last week we talked about bringing your tawanda out being comfortable talking to your doctor. Feeling if you are ready to talk to your doctor and you had brought up a letter that you made up on your website.

Unknown 8:58

I did darling thank you for that great idea you were so inspired you. And I got off the horn that day with you and I wrote that letter for all of our audience listeners. So it’s up on the website at Canada param.com, or you can always just text me or email me at cannabis herbarium at gmail and I will send you that letter to your primary physician that says, you know, I’m considering using cannabis and I want your support. So lab lab lab lab lab. Anyway, for free. Of course,

Unknown 9:40

it definitely, definitely smoothes the articles definitely start the conversation smoothly with your doctor by the word. Yes.

Unknown 9:56

Well, because we don’t want to piss him off because most of the, you know, medical, our primary care physicians don’t know anything about cannabis, and they’re propagandize about it, and need more education so we want to bring them into the fold gently encourage them inspire them to want to learn more about it so that they can take care of us.

Unknown 10:21

Exactly. And just for my doctors that I started out with back in Michigan and Minnesota, as my cameras journey started, they saw the incredible effects that the cannabis that cannabis had on me, and the fact

Unknown 10:38

now what were their attitudes at first firms, their attitude.

Unknown 10:41

Well, some of them they were very interested and I was like their, you know like, I don’t want to say they’re a guinea pig but I wish they were watching what cannabis was doing they were wanting, and they were seeing, you know less and less prescriptions that were being handed out to me and, you know, noticing how physically I was changing, you know like, even the color of my skin, and that I lost weight and just seeing that my mood has, I’ve been able to handle my excruciating pain that I deal with daily. I’ve been able to mentally handle that easier by using cannabis so it’s helped me in so many different ways.

Unknown 11:28

That’s the beauty of it, isn’t it. That is the beauty of it it has so much potential for help in so many directions in your body, because of those over 400 compounds and, yes, it’s just amazing really amazing so then what happened. So, up there in Minnesota and Michigan you were still under the primary care physician right not a cannabis doctor,

Unknown 11:53

I was under the cannabis doctor in Michigan and Minnesota as well. Oh, I was registered patient in both states. So I would go back between, you know, the two cannabis doctors along with my doctors in Michigan well that’s a lot of a lot of doctor’s visits, but it was very interesting because I I educated, a lot of people

Unknown 12:19

girl I’m here to Wanda blossom

Unknown 12:22

gave me a lot more I’m more confident in in myself because I have worked very hard to get off of narcotics, and several other pharmaceuticals that I needed on a daily basis, it was like I was, I don’t want to say an injection, but it actually wasn’t addiction because I had to add medicine. Every single day every few hours, and you’ve been on it for so long I was on it for. Was it flyers and different narcotics. Going out medications that I found that

Unknown 12:57

I was tasting in the

Unknown 13:00

husband mind

Unknown 13:01

they just tried so many pharmaceuticals, and it was just like overwhelming. And my body was reacting. So it was just, it was poisoning me, and I, you know, felt like I was literally going to die if I continue to life of taking these opioids and pharmaceuticals, the way I was, I know that pain like gum So changing the cannabis is truly changed my life in a positive way. And that’s why I like to share what has changed my life.

Unknown 13:34

Yeah, absolutely. Are you, girl. You better stop that I’ve already burst into tears three times this morning. I know how emotional lives. And I and I’ve cried with you already about this several times, and it’s, it is it, you know. And every time you have those memories of those horrific moments in agony it. Your eyes get hot and fill with water and you stop breathing, and you’re stuck there in that moment remembering that, because it gives us PTSD what those side effects of those meds do to us. It changes us from the humans, we want to be into something nobody recognizes or wants to be right.

Unknown 14:29

Exactly. That’s how it was for me. No, I lost friends I lost you know people that were around me, because they saw me so sick and not the person they first met, you know, before I became sick and on all the medications. So,

Unknown 14:46

your u was gone.

Unknown 14:48

My mommy was gone and

Unknown 14:52

that so

Unknown 14:55

definitely given me the backbone to be able to do that I can definitely tell you that.

Unknown 15:02

Well, I had to do a one page advertisement. Yesterday, and they asked for, you know, a description of, you know, what do you tell people when you tell them what you do. And my thought at the moment was, well, if you’re a patient on a handful of pills, searching for relief from the side effects you’re suffering.

Unknown 15:36

Then,

Unknown 15:39

help yourself and find out you know do a little investigation about cannabis. I used to be that patient. I used to be that patient on a handful of pills in in brain fog that would not stop that was relentless that you know just kept made barely functioning as needed. And people didn’t want to be around me. No, you know, it were

Unknown 16:10

very dark in your life, and I, I didn’t, I don’t want to be in that dark place anymore, and being within the cannabis community and you know even going to events and sharing my journey with others and hearing other cannabis patients tell me share their journey with me it’s just so inspiring.

Unknown 16:33

It really is. And that kind of inspiration is what just helps us put one foot in front of the other. And just keep going towards our own goal.

Unknown 16:45

Exactly.

Unknown 16:45

So, you know, when our when our only goal is to feel better the bar is kind of low, but if that’s our goal, then we must just keep trying to put one foot in front of the other, to get there. And the help of inspiring people who have already been through this Fiona. That’s why I love you, you can help so many people just by telling your story over and over and and letting them know it’s possible to come out on the other side of this,

Unknown 17:18

it is possible and want, and the more you see yourself, taking that step forwards, the easier it gets to talk to the doctors.

Unknown 17:31

It does, it gives you strength

Unknown 17:33

plan you have more confidence and you know that you’re doing the right thing. So that gives you the more comment as. So,

Unknown 17:41

and you’ve got facts on your side actually doctors love doctors love baths they do take a few facts to them and citations and they’re like, Oh, well this girl really did her research, maybe I should listen. So, and that’s what that’s what the dear doctor letter will point him to exactly his own research and and discovery on his on his own, so he can believe his own eyes. So, how, how did it work in Minnesota and then in Michigan to find a cannabis doctor down here in Florida you know it’s pretty easy you just kind of let your fingers do the walking pot doctor near me, and you’ll find a jillion of them, and then you choose, you choose the cheapest one in my opinion.

Unknown 18:32

Yeah,

Unknown 18:32

I’ve got a little caveat to that though. But, and the caveat is, if you don’t have any major heart issues going on, or, you know, or you’re not in the middle of a cancer that you need your primary physician to be on the same page with you, if you want to start trying struct a cannabis therapy for yourself. If you have a serious condition, like what Fiona did, you know, terrible horrendous back and spinal things going on and Lalalalala, You want your doctors to be on the same page with you so that they can support you. But if your primary care physician is not. You don’t need their permission to go use cannabis. You know,

Unknown 19:27

you don’t

Unknown 19:28

know and and your, your medical records do not belong to that doctor they are your medical records so you just go and get your medical records and take them to a new cannabis Doctor Who will not be your primary care physician. He will only be your cannabis care doctor who will help you understand how to begin using it. And then your bud tenders are going to be the ones that you’re going to be asking the most from

Unknown 20:09

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Unknown 20:25

it’s so much fun.

Unknown 20:33

What happens this affect me well how does that affect me well how do you know when should, how should I get what should I get for this or that. So the bud tenders are going to be the ones who are going to be like your pharmacist.

Unknown 20:45

And don’t be. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. Right. Many of you as long wants to because it’s your body your medicine, and our medicine is not cheap it’s very expensive so we need to be careful

Unknown 21:01

with what we charge very expensive. When I was a kid, I could get a lid for five bucks. Now, a lid meant that you were getting the top of a gallon sized mason jar, filled with marijuana. That’s what lid was, and it weighed about an ounce, or if you put it in a Ziploc baggie It was about three or four fingers if you got a four finger lid in that baggie, you were doing real good and that cannabis grower was your friend.

Unknown 21:42

So,

Unknown 21:44

as we don’t get an ounce. Well whatever $5 an ounce of. Yeah, we don’t get an ounce for $5. Now, we, you can buy an ounce for about $400 or more

Unknown 21:59

depending on what you’re purchasing

Unknown 22:01

the classification that’s right and how good is the law. So now in dispensaries, they’re selling tiny amounts of cannabis, like in quarters and eighths and, you know, small amounts for 3666, that kind of money, more affordable to us but lots lots love last. And that’s and that’s why you need to. The second reason you should microdose is because it’s so expensive. The first reason you should microdose is because it’s your medicine, and you’re trying to find out what your personal dosage is where you find relief. And then when you find relief with that dosage smoking anything above that or more than that is just wasting it. And so, that’s over, using. And it builds your tolerance. And then you have to use more to get the same fat. So, if you dose properly, then you don’t have those issues and the second reason to microdose is that it saves money exactly because you’re not using too much and wasting it in fire or wasting it. You know, in vaping or however you use it. So, so back to, I’m so sorry Girl, you know I get up on my soapbox that telling our friends, how to find a cannabis doctor, like, how did you do it up in Minnesota. How did you know where to find the cannabis doctor Miss Saturday.

Unknown 23:57

I honestly I just I just googled it online, and we let doctor that I chose in Minnesota he, his name is Dr Thorsen, and he has a spine clinic. So he would not only specialize as a doctor in the spine and all of that he also is a medical cannabis doctor. So he really knew your issues Yes, and. Yeah. Wow, you are very lucky and he’s a great physician and I have referred many people in Minnesota to him and they love them to actually my son is also one of his patients. So yeah, he’s a great guy and then in Michigan where I first became a registered patient was my sister in law knew the, the facility that we went to, they’ve

Unknown 24:54

done that before. So, so you got out.

Unknown 24:58

That was great.

Unknown 25:00

So tell me Fiona, what, what kind of advice. Did he say, What did he tell you, I mean I know I remember you telling me that he said you know I promise that by the end of the year maybe six months you’re gonna be off, you know at least half of these 30 pills that you were taken. And you were,

Unknown 25:17

yes.

Unknown 25:18

But more than that, what did he say about, actually, you know, go into a dispensary and using and choosing some cannabis Did he say anything about that. Well, I

Unknown 25:28

have to be honest, I have to be honest my, you know, I was very nervous, because this is like the start of my journey and so I was, you know, really medicated, you know, on opioids and pharmaceuticals, so it was like, not only was I nervous you know just in general by, you know, talking to him but I you know was also not feeling well from being all doped up on pharmaceuticals so I only

Unknown 26:01

Jonah, I’m sorry.

Unknown 26:03

I know I’m sorry I, I’m just thinking, you know, at that point, in all of our journey, we all feel so criminal about it as well. And I can only imagine that that was another reason why you may have been feeling nervous because cannabis was barely legal and, and up until the moment that you walk into that professional medical facility, you know, just thinking about cannabis felt like it could get you arrested.

Unknown 26:34

I just, it was just a very strange feeling but it was our biggest part I remember with him sitting there and he was looking at my medication list and turning the pages of the medication list and I was just kind of shaking his head and he looked at me and he just said, You’re on a lot of medications and says, Wow, he says, I guarantee if you start this therapy, and really work hard you’re going to be able to get off of at least half of the medications you’re on. And I went down to three medications.

Unknown 27:17

Now you told me you had a very unfortunate experience as a kid in high school with marijuana and it turned you off of that for all your life until this last experience where you decided to use cannabis therapy. So I’m curious, how did he advise you. Do you recall of what to start with, or how to go into a dispensary and choose Did he say anything about, you know, you should try something, you know, any kind of dosage amount.

Unknown 27:59

While your card will be, you’ll be registered as a patient and within a couple days you’ll be able to go into a dispensary there Michigan and purchase any type any medication that I would like to. They had a huge realm of medications. So, yeah, it was quite like the buffet. Yeah. He always told me you know, you never have to worry about overdosing you just have to start slow and, you know, if you’re using a concentrate especially or an edible, you definitely want to start slow because the onset of that doesn’t always come on, right away. It usually takes about a half an hour sometimes an hour for you to feel effects of an edible or a sublingual concentrator even the last injures. I’ve noticed even drinking a drink the drinks that they had available there, the onset of that didn’t come on right away.

Unknown 29:01

Interesting because I thought all that nanotechnology made it Come on, faster. Oh, glad to know. I met years ago. Yeah, yeah.

Unknown 29:16

I’m sure their technology now is you know, much, much more. Much, much improved.

Unknown 29:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so too. Well it’s interesting to hear how he just gave you a generality, in advice about what to use. And then you went over to Michigan and and had to get another doctor, a different doctor. And so, by that time you’ve been using ride. I started

Unknown 29:48

in Michigan experience as a patient that was my first date, and then I realized that I wanted to be with my family once I it was about seven months into my journey. I decided to go back and be with my family and become a patient Minnesota so then I was a patient all states so when I traveled back and forth. I could you know get my medication in Minnesota and I could get my medication in Michigan.

Unknown 30:19

I just had that story backwards but down here in Florida, you go to cannabis doctor. And like most other primary physicians. They are only just learning about cannabis because they’ve never been taught in school about it. Since the schedule one rating by the Federal rollease. So now that that’s about to be dropped. Education is going to burst open, and we’re going to have a ton of medical students and medical personnel, start taking the classes needed to really understand cannabis and practice so that red fighting so great. It really is. But right now, if, if you don’t have major issues, then you can just do you know let your fingers do the walk and like Fiona did, Minnesota, and Google pot doctor near me, and go to the cheapest one that you can find. Because again, the real results are going to be. When you get to the dispensary and talk to the bud tenders there, who will help help you understand their product line, and what works best for what, so they’ll help you. You know, understand all of that so much better than us trying to say the name of their products and how much you know how many terpenes they have in it and what the ratios of these Kima bars are compared to those Kima bars and, you know, and oh by the way, don’t forget to check the third party lab tests, except you don’t really have to do that in a dispensary, because by law in Florida. Not in Michigan. But in Florida. By law, all dispensaries must third party lab test their products. So, for contamination. So, and content to make sure that what they said was there is there. That’s not true. For over the counter products, they don’t have to test anything and most of them don’t. So, if you’re wanting to purchase some CBD products from him through a brick and mortar store or an online over the counter store. Then, all you have to do to make sure you’re safe with that product is ask for the third party lab tests, because you just don’t want to be ingesting any contamination from pesticides and herbicides and batshit fungicides and bacteria and all kinds of things so heavy metals cannabis loves to suck up heavy metals out of the earth and the core of our planet is heavy metals. So, and heavy metals cause damage to humans and animals so. So that’s why we avoid that and hope to only purchase cannabis products that have been medicinal Li grown so that they’re not in. In, you know, there’s a barrier between if they’re grown in soil clean soil. There’s a barrier between the clean soil and the and the earth’s core, that sort of thing. Oh, there’s so much to learn that cannabis.

Unknown 34:05

I learned more than one thing new every day.

Unknown 34:11

I love that and, you know, podcasting has brought a huge education to me. I, I love listening to Suze Orman’s podcast because it feels like she’s my mother trying to teach me about money. And it really, and I love listening to some business podcasts that inspire ideas about, you know, how to turn this podcast, into a business for me. It’s also my service, our service to the community we love living here we’re happy in our community. We want to help it grow and and be better and lovely for everybody so that’s what this podcast is for it’s to serve our community, and you can get it free wherever you listen to podcasts, and all of this information is always going to be free to you, because that’s our service to our community. So, eventually, we’re going to put some products up on our website and you’ll be able to find my ebook there that I’ve. I’m writing, and all kinds of interesting things for you to consider. To help your world be better. And so, Fiona and I are working on all that fun stuff for your benefit and we’ll keep you posted. Yes we

Unknown 35:47

will. Exciting.

Unknown 35:51

Oh girl. We’ve got still got a great big old day ahead of us Let’s go get to it shall,

Unknown 35:56

we shall,

Unknown 35:58

honey, I thank you so much for joining me today and helping our audience understand how great cannabis can be for uplifting, your quality of life.

Unknown 36:11

Exactly. I am. I’m just amazed at how cannabis makes me feel mentally. Yes, me too happy thought.

Unknown 36:24

It does. It makes your mind bounce it gives you

Unknown 36:27

my aura in your mind she’s smiling your eyes

Unknown 36:30

sparkle is great. And you just did that for me just damn My eyes are sparkling I’m so I’m smiling and getting all critically I will talk to you again real soon. Talk to you soon.

Unknown 36:41

Have a great day.

Unknown 36:51

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Transcribed by https://otter.ai

Unknown 0:02

Good morning Fiona

Unknown 0:04

morning honey How are you, I’m good.

Unknown 0:09

I’m so glad to be here with you today. Gosh, I need to talk to another girl,

Unknown 0:15

you know, how are you.

Unknown 0:18

Yeah, kind of just being stuck in the cave and, you know, just all that it’s just so juicy to hear another sweet voice and just chat about your life.

Unknown 0:30

And we’d like to welcome our audience back to another moment of clarity.

Unknown 0:36

Oh my gosh, I’m so grateful you always seem to remember to say that and I don’t thank you to your hard work. I always love to find out what you’re using because you get the best meds, and it’s so funny that that we have choices in medications like this isn’t it we don’t usually have a choice in our Bayer aspirin well wait a minute Yes we do. We can get it in orange flavored right yes. So they, you know, Western mids did do a little bit of that they also put flavoring in cough syrup so it wouldn’t be so bad. So we do see some, you know, bit of different flavorings for a more palatable flavor and Western medications, especially over the counter. But yeah, especially over the counter, but I do know that there are some prescription medications that come with flavoring too. So, so even though it may be a little odd to speak about our cannabis medications, in a way that we have choices that are fun to choose, I guess.

Unknown 1:56

I guess

Unknown 1:57

the novelty of that alone is is just a pleasing little, add on to the way you medicate with cannabis isn’t it.

Unknown 2:06

Well it is it I mean there’s just so many different varieties to choose from different you know strains from a sativa hybrid to, you know, indico leaning hybrid or to straight indika different count you know different levels of medications and concentrate levels and it’s just such a variety and I just, it’s exciting to be able to experiment, I guess you could say with all of the varieties we have.

Unknown 2:37

I think so too. I think it’s nice to will. And at this point, that’s all we can do is experiment. You know we’re our own guinea pigs, because there’s just there’s not enough, any trial, you know, they’re. Sorry. There’s just not enough clinical trials out there telling us what’s doing what for people. And as soon as 2021 gets here and cannabis explodes. Then we’ll begin having all of these wonderful scientific clinical trials to look to, to find out what we are really doing with cannabis, and the human body, and the animal body too. So what are you using today.

Unknown 3:26

I started out my day with rolling a joint dream crush it was brown flour. I’ve had that for a little while so I needed to use that before you know it started to lose its potency. And, yeah, as we talked about in one of our other episodes we talked about. Keep here. Cannabis stores flower, it can lose the potency to art so I looked at the date. I thought oh I better start using this I started out with that. And I recently went to surterra over in Port Orange, and I purchased a new product that I never tried before.

Unknown 4:21

Our Wi Fi just cut out I think you said you went you’ve purchased stuff in Port Orange.

Unknown 4:25

Yeah. And so, Tara. Yay. I’ve never tried there, concentrate in the float mind. And as we’re talking about sometimes containers are hard for us to open I was extremely impressed by this one. And I got the Girl Scout cookies, really,

Unknown 4:45

she found a good container.

Unknown 4:47

I did.

Unknown 4:49

I don’t know why that excites me so I’m so jealous that you can even that you can roll a joint my hands below and like

Unknown 4:57

I can’t I use a little, little, rolling device that made by raw. Oh, and you put you put your cannabis in you grounded up you put it in the rolling device, and you close it you roll it together and then you put the paper in and you roll it, and it rolls the joint for you.

Unknown 5:20

Can you find this little rolling

Unknown 5:25

film because that’s where I found mine was at the purple haze smoke shop in Daytona Beach.

Unknown 5:32

Oh, and I’ll bet, dispensary’s, sell them to I think I’ve heard of at least one selling you know their branded paper roller little device. I always forget about those haven’t used those since I was a kid, you know, but, but they’re really helpful for people with

Unknown 5:54

pain and advanced carpal tunnel and arthritis in my hands and so it’s really hard for me to do that pincer grasp where you grasp where you need to you know precisely roll to join I can’t do that. So, and, you know,

Unknown 6:11

the dog puppy bags. I can’t open those either can open a trad plastic away your finger and

Unknown 6:18

rub the paper, rub the plastic together separates it.

Unknown 6:25

Oh, that’s right, it actually does.

Unknown 6:27

But,

Unknown 6:28

I am just not.

Unknown 6:41

So I am

Unknown 6:44

sorry container that I found because dispensing it is extremely easy as well so not only do we have the container that opens really easy. We have the dispensing, that is, you turn it and you dispense it just comes out real easy and extremely impressed about this product and Girl Scout cookie is a great strategy so I, you know, it really helped me a lot.

Unknown 7:12

I’ve been hearing about Girl Scout cookie for years, and, you know, even had some before and it promises a nice delivery.

Unknown 7:23

I’ve actually read that it’s actually a really good strategy for Ms.

Unknown 7:30

Yeah, and boy. If you have any kind of named condition. I just want to challenge you to have that condition in Google with cannabis, you know like cannabis and Parkinson’s or cannabis and Ms or cannabis, and, you know, diabetes or anything, and see what the scientists have even asthma, yes have already proven about cannabis helping your condition. So don’t don’t don’t believe me, I’m just cannabis shaman I’m not a doctor who knows everything about your body, but you certainly can bind cannabis specialists doctors who have already given us plenty of factual information about cannabis in particular issues. Oh, do some research. Yeah, we were, we were thinking about talking about our experience. Finding a cannabis doctor.

Unknown 8:42

Yes. Last week we talked about bringing your tawanda out being comfortable talking to your doctor. Feeling if you are ready to talk to your doctor and you had brought up a letter that you made up on your website.

Unknown 8:58

I did darling thank you for that great idea you were so inspired you. And I got off the horn that day with you and I wrote that letter for all of our audience listeners. So it’s up on the website at Canada param.com, or you can always just text me or email me at cannabis herbarium at gmail and I will send you that letter to your primary physician that says, you know, I’m considering using cannabis and I want your support. So lab lab lab lab lab. Anyway, for free. Of course,

Unknown 9:40

it definitely, definitely smoothes the articles definitely start the conversation smoothly with your doctor by the word. Yes.

Unknown 9:56

Well, because we don’t want to piss him off because most of the, you know, medical, our primary care physicians don’t know anything about cannabis, and they’re propagandize about it, and need more education so we want to bring them into the fold gently encourage them inspire them to want to learn more about it so that they can take care of us.

Unknown 10:21

Exactly. And just for my doctors that I started out with back in Michigan and Minnesota, as my cameras journey started, they saw the incredible effects that the cannabis that cannabis had on me, and the fact

Unknown 10:38

now what were their attitudes at first firms, their attitude.

Unknown 10:41

Well, some of them they were very interested and I was like their, you know like, I don’t want to say they’re a guinea pig but I wish they were watching what cannabis was doing they were wanting, and they were seeing, you know less and less prescriptions that were being handed out to me and, you know, noticing how physically I was changing, you know like, even the color of my skin, and that I lost weight and just seeing that my mood has, I’ve been able to handle my excruciating pain that I deal with daily. I’ve been able to mentally handle that easier by using cannabis so it’s helped me in so many different ways.

Unknown 11:28

That’s the beauty of it, isn’t it. That is the beauty of it it has so much potential for help in so many directions in your body, because of those over 400 compounds and, yes, it’s just amazing really amazing so then what happened. So, up there in Minnesota and Michigan you were still under the primary care physician right not a cannabis doctor,

Unknown 11:53

I was under the cannabis doctor in Michigan and Minnesota as well. Oh, I was registered patient in both states. So I would go back between, you know, the two cannabis doctors along with my doctors in Michigan well that’s a lot of a lot of doctor’s visits, but it was very interesting because I I educated, a lot of people

Unknown 12:19

girl I’m here to Wanda blossom

Unknown 12:22

gave me a lot more I’m more confident in in myself because I have worked very hard to get off of narcotics, and several other pharmaceuticals that I needed on a daily basis, it was like I was, I don’t want to say an injection, but it actually wasn’t addiction because I had to add medicine. Every single day every few hours, and you’ve been on it for so long I was on it for. Was it flyers and different narcotics. Going out medications that I found that

Unknown 12:57

I was tasting in the

Unknown 13:00

husband mind

Unknown 13:01

they just tried so many pharmaceuticals, and it was just like overwhelming. And my body was reacting. So it was just, it was poisoning me, and I, you know, felt like I was literally going to die if I continue to life of taking these opioids and pharmaceuticals, the way I was, I know that pain like gum So changing the cannabis is truly changed my life in a positive way. And that’s why I like to share what has changed my life.

Unknown 13:34

Yeah, absolutely. Are you, girl. You better stop that I’ve already burst into tears three times this morning. I know how emotional lives. And I and I’ve cried with you already about this several times, and it’s, it is it, you know. And every time you have those memories of those horrific moments in agony it. Your eyes get hot and fill with water and you stop breathing, and you’re stuck there in that moment remembering that, because it gives us PTSD what those side effects of those meds do to us. It changes us from the humans, we want to be into something nobody recognizes or wants to be right.

Unknown 14:29

Exactly. That’s how it was for me. No, I lost friends I lost you know people that were around me, because they saw me so sick and not the person they first met, you know, before I became sick and on all the medications. So,

Unknown 14:46

your u was gone.

Unknown 14:48

My mommy was gone and

Unknown 14:52

that so

Unknown 14:55

definitely given me the backbone to be able to do that I can definitely tell you that.

Unknown 15:02

Well, I had to do a one page advertisement. Yesterday, and they asked for, you know, a description of, you know, what do you tell people when you tell them what you do. And my thought at the moment was, well, if you’re a patient on a handful of pills, searching for relief from the side effects you’re suffering.

Unknown 15:36

Then,

Unknown 15:39

help yourself and find out you know do a little investigation about cannabis. I used to be that patient. I used to be that patient on a handful of pills in in brain fog that would not stop that was relentless that you know just kept made barely functioning as needed. And people didn’t want to be around me. No, you know, it were

Unknown 16:10

very dark in your life, and I, I didn’t, I don’t want to be in that dark place anymore, and being within the cannabis community and you know even going to events and sharing my journey with others and hearing other cannabis patients tell me share their journey with me it’s just so inspiring.

Unknown 16:33

It really is. And that kind of inspiration is what just helps us put one foot in front of the other. And just keep going towards our own goal.

Unknown 16:45

Exactly.

Unknown 16:45

So, you know, when our when our only goal is to feel better the bar is kind of low, but if that’s our goal, then we must just keep trying to put one foot in front of the other, to get there. And the help of inspiring people who have already been through this Fiona. That’s why I love you, you can help so many people just by telling your story over and over and and letting them know it’s possible to come out on the other side of this,

Unknown 17:18

it is possible and want, and the more you see yourself, taking that step forwards, the easier it gets to talk to the doctors.

Unknown 17:31

It does, it gives you strength

Unknown 17:33

plan you have more confidence and you know that you’re doing the right thing. So that gives you the more comment as. So,

Unknown 17:41

and you’ve got facts on your side actually doctors love doctors love baths they do take a few facts to them and citations and they’re like, Oh, well this girl really did her research, maybe I should listen. So, and that’s what that’s what the dear doctor letter will point him to exactly his own research and and discovery on his on his own, so he can believe his own eyes. So, how, how did it work in Minnesota and then in Michigan to find a cannabis doctor down here in Florida you know it’s pretty easy you just kind of let your fingers do the walking pot doctor near me, and you’ll find a jillion of them, and then you choose, you choose the cheapest one in my opinion.

Unknown 18:32

Yeah,

Unknown 18:32

I’ve got a little caveat to that though. But, and the caveat is, if you don’t have any major heart issues going on, or, you know, or you’re not in the middle of a cancer that you need your primary physician to be on the same page with you, if you want to start trying struct a cannabis therapy for yourself. If you have a serious condition, like what Fiona did, you know, terrible horrendous back and spinal things going on and Lalalalala, You want your doctors to be on the same page with you so that they can support you. But if your primary care physician is not. You don’t need their permission to go use cannabis. You know,

Unknown 19:27

you don’t

Unknown 19:28

know and and your, your medical records do not belong to that doctor they are your medical records so you just go and get your medical records and take them to a new cannabis Doctor Who will not be your primary care physician. He will only be your cannabis care doctor who will help you understand how to begin using it. And then your bud tenders are going to be the ones that you’re going to be asking the most from

Unknown 20:09

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Unknown 20:25

it’s so much fun.

Unknown 20:33

What happens this affect me well how does that affect me well how do you know when should, how should I get what should I get for this or that. So the bud tenders are going to be the ones who are going to be like your pharmacist.

Unknown 20:45

And don’t be. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. Right. Many of you as long wants to because it’s your body your medicine, and our medicine is not cheap it’s very expensive so we need to be careful

Unknown 21:01

with what we charge very expensive. When I was a kid, I could get a lid for five bucks. Now, a lid meant that you were getting the top of a gallon sized mason jar, filled with marijuana. That’s what lid was, and it weighed about an ounce, or if you put it in a Ziploc baggie It was about three or four fingers if you got a four finger lid in that baggie, you were doing real good and that cannabis grower was your friend.

Unknown 21:42

So,

Unknown 21:44

as we don’t get an ounce. Well whatever $5 an ounce of. Yeah, we don’t get an ounce for $5. Now, we, you can buy an ounce for about $400 or more

Unknown 21:59

depending on what you’re purchasing

Unknown 22:01

the classification that’s right and how good is the law. So now in dispensaries, they’re selling tiny amounts of cannabis, like in quarters and eighths and, you know, small amounts for 3666, that kind of money, more affordable to us but lots lots love last. And that’s and that’s why you need to. The second reason you should microdose is because it’s so expensive. The first reason you should microdose is because it’s your medicine, and you’re trying to find out what your personal dosage is where you find relief. And then when you find relief with that dosage smoking anything above that or more than that is just wasting it. And so, that’s over, using. And it builds your tolerance. And then you have to use more to get the same fat. So, if you dose properly, then you don’t have those issues and the second reason to microdose is that it saves money exactly because you’re not using too much and wasting it in fire or wasting it. You know, in vaping or however you use it. So, so back to, I’m so sorry Girl, you know I get up on my soapbox that telling our friends, how to find a cannabis doctor, like, how did you do it up in Minnesota. How did you know where to find the cannabis doctor Miss Saturday.

Unknown 23:57

I honestly I just I just googled it online, and we let doctor that I chose in Minnesota he, his name is Dr Thorsen, and he has a spine clinic. So he would not only specialize as a doctor in the spine and all of that he also is a medical cannabis doctor. So he really knew your issues Yes, and. Yeah. Wow, you are very lucky and he’s a great physician and I have referred many people in Minnesota to him and they love them to actually my son is also one of his patients. So yeah, he’s a great guy and then in Michigan where I first became a registered patient was my sister in law knew the, the facility that we went to, they’ve

Unknown 24:54

done that before. So, so you got out.

Unknown 24:58

That was great.

Unknown 25:00

So tell me Fiona, what, what kind of advice. Did he say, What did he tell you, I mean I know I remember you telling me that he said you know I promise that by the end of the year maybe six months you’re gonna be off, you know at least half of these 30 pills that you were taken. And you were,

Unknown 25:17

yes.

Unknown 25:18

But more than that, what did he say about, actually, you know, go into a dispensary and using and choosing some cannabis Did he say anything about that. Well, I

Unknown 25:28

have to be honest, I have to be honest my, you know, I was very nervous, because this is like the start of my journey and so I was, you know, really medicated, you know, on opioids and pharmaceuticals, so it was like, not only was I nervous you know just in general by, you know, talking to him but I you know was also not feeling well from being all doped up on pharmaceuticals so I only

Unknown 26:01

Jonah, I’m sorry.

Unknown 26:03

I know I’m sorry I, I’m just thinking, you know, at that point, in all of our journey, we all feel so criminal about it as well. And I can only imagine that that was another reason why you may have been feeling nervous because cannabis was barely legal and, and up until the moment that you walk into that professional medical facility, you know, just thinking about cannabis felt like it could get you arrested.

Unknown 26:34

I just, it was just a very strange feeling but it was our biggest part I remember with him sitting there and he was looking at my medication list and turning the pages of the medication list and I was just kind of shaking his head and he looked at me and he just said, You’re on a lot of medications and says, Wow, he says, I guarantee if you start this therapy, and really work hard you’re going to be able to get off of at least half of the medications you’re on. And I went down to three medications.

Unknown 27:17

Now you told me you had a very unfortunate experience as a kid in high school with marijuana and it turned you off of that for all your life until this last experience where you decided to use cannabis therapy. So I’m curious, how did he advise you. Do you recall of what to start with, or how to go into a dispensary and choose Did he say anything about, you know, you should try something, you know, any kind of dosage amount.

Unknown 27:59

While your card will be, you’ll be registered as a patient and within a couple days you’ll be able to go into a dispensary there Michigan and purchase any type any medication that I would like to. They had a huge realm of medications. So, yeah, it was quite like the buffet. Yeah. He always told me you know, you never have to worry about overdosing you just have to start slow and, you know, if you’re using a concentrate especially or an edible, you definitely want to start slow because the onset of that doesn’t always come on, right away. It usually takes about a half an hour sometimes an hour for you to feel effects of an edible or a sublingual concentrator even the last injures. I’ve noticed even drinking a drink the drinks that they had available there, the onset of that didn’t come on right away.

Unknown 29:01

Interesting because I thought all that nanotechnology made it Come on, faster. Oh, glad to know. I met years ago. Yeah, yeah.

Unknown 29:16

I’m sure their technology now is you know, much, much more. Much, much improved.

Unknown 29:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so too. Well it’s interesting to hear how he just gave you a generality, in advice about what to use. And then you went over to Michigan and and had to get another doctor, a different doctor. And so, by that time you’ve been using ride. I started

Unknown 29:48

in Michigan experience as a patient that was my first date, and then I realized that I wanted to be with my family once I it was about seven months into my journey. I decided to go back and be with my family and become a patient Minnesota so then I was a patient all states so when I traveled back and forth. I could you know get my medication in Minnesota and I could get my medication in Michigan.

Unknown 30:19

I just had that story backwards but down here in Florida, you go to cannabis doctor. And like most other primary physicians. They are only just learning about cannabis because they’ve never been taught in school about it. Since the schedule one rating by the Federal rollease. So now that that’s about to be dropped. Education is going to burst open, and we’re going to have a ton of medical students and medical personnel, start taking the classes needed to really understand cannabis and practice so that red fighting so great. It really is. But right now, if, if you don’t have major issues, then you can just do you know let your fingers do the walk and like Fiona did, Minnesota, and Google pot doctor near me, and go to the cheapest one that you can find. Because again, the real results are going to be. When you get to the dispensary and talk to the bud tenders there, who will help help you understand their product line, and what works best for what, so they’ll help you. You know, understand all of that so much better than us trying to say the name of their products and how much you know how many terpenes they have in it and what the ratios of these Kima bars are compared to those Kima bars and, you know, and oh by the way, don’t forget to check the third party lab tests, except you don’t really have to do that in a dispensary, because by law in Florida. Not in Michigan. But in Florida. By law, all dispensaries must third party lab test their products. So, for contamination. So, and content to make sure that what they said was there is there. That’s not true. For over the counter products, they don’t have to test anything and most of them don’t. So, if you’re wanting to purchase some CBD products from him through a brick and mortar store or an online over the counter store. Then, all you have to do to make sure you’re safe with that product is ask for the third party lab tests, because you just don’t want to be ingesting any contamination from pesticides and herbicides and batshit fungicides and bacteria and all kinds of things so heavy metals cannabis loves to suck up heavy metals out of the earth and the core of our planet is heavy metals. So, and heavy metals cause damage to humans and animals so. So that’s why we avoid that and hope to only purchase cannabis products that have been medicinal Li grown so that they’re not in. In, you know, there’s a barrier between if they’re grown in soil clean soil. There’s a barrier between the clean soil and the and the earth’s core, that sort of thing. Oh, there’s so much to learn that cannabis.

Unknown 34:05

I learned more than one thing new every day.

Unknown 34:11

I love that and, you know, podcasting has brought a huge education to me. I, I love listening to Suze Orman’s podcast because it feels like she’s my mother trying to teach me about money. And it really, and I love listening to some business podcasts that inspire ideas about, you know, how to turn this podcast, into a business for me. It’s also my service, our service to the community we love living here we’re happy in our community. We want to help it grow and and be better and lovely for everybody so that’s what this podcast is for it’s to serve our community, and you can get it free wherever you listen to podcasts, and all of this information is always going to be free to you, because that’s our service to our community. So, eventually, we’re going to put some products up on our website and you’ll be able to find my ebook there that I’ve. I’m writing, and all kinds of interesting things for you to consider. To help your world be better. And so, Fiona and I are working on all that fun stuff for your benefit and we’ll keep you posted. Yes we

Unknown 35:47

will. Exciting.

Unknown 35:51

Oh girl. We’ve got still got a great big old day ahead of us Let’s go get to it shall,

Unknown 35:56

we shall,

Unknown 35:58

honey, I thank you so much for joining me today and helping our audience understand how great cannabis can be for uplifting, your quality of life.

Unknown 36:11

Exactly. I am. I’m just amazed at how cannabis makes me feel mentally. Yes, me too happy thought.

Unknown 36:24

It does. It makes your mind bounce it gives you

Unknown 36:27

my aura in your mind she’s smiling your eyes

Unknown 36:30

sparkle is great. And you just did that for me just damn My eyes are sparkling I’m so I’m smiling and getting all critically I will talk to you again real soon. Talk to you soon.

Unknown 36:41

Have a great day.

Host: Honey 26:57

You’ve been listening to another Cannaba Verum podcast with 21st century cannabis shaman Honey Smith Walls, about the importance of using safe hemp and marijuana products. Unless otherwise proven by a reputable third party lab test, please be advised that all street weed is contaminated. It may do grave harm to a patient with a delicate immune system. I challenge you to check the veracity of my statements in each episode by checking the medical citations posted on my blog at Cannaba Verum.com.

That’s C A N N A B A   V E R U M.com

  1. plant specifically grows, the acid form, the THCa –  https://academic.oup.com/pcp/article/46/9/1578/1812749
  2. all street weed is contaminated: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5022003/
  3. Handbook of Cannabis for Clinicians, Practices and Principles by Dr. Dustin Sulak – https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Cannabis-Clinicians-Principles-Practice/dp/0393714187 and healer.com
  4. Certificate of Analysis (COA) https://www.pharmtech.com/view/certificates-analysis-don-t-trust-verify

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