CV 186 Stacy Bobak

November 13, 2022

CV 186 Stacy Bobak


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Hello my friends, I am delighted to introduce you to Stacy Bobak,  a dental hygienist and cannabis expert teaching the fundamentals to student hygienists in Canada. What’s cannabis got to do with our teeth? You’re gonna hear all about it right after the intro…


Honey Smith Walls 0:00

Welcome to season three of the Cannaba Verum podcast, the cannabis truth podcast. I speak the language of cannabis freely and uncensored while educating my audience on safe use of this live plant therapy. You should know what’s in your cannabis. What’s good and what’s not. It does not come with an FDA stamp of approval yet.

Using cannabis mindfully as medication is a different concept in Western healthcare philosophy, specifically the past 100 years. There’s a lot to learn and reconsider. The information you’ll find here comes straight from the scientists and clinicians doing the work and reporting their findings in real time through various live online outlets. The scientific truth of cannabis is finally getting out and is wide open for all to see at respected medical sites like and JAMA, the Journal of American Medical Association (

I’m right there in the thick of it with all those titans of medicine as a fly on the wall. Because I’m not a doctor. I didn’t go to med school. I did take dozens of private cannabis courses offered by cannabis expert scientists online over the past few years and slowly began to see and understand the bigger picture.

Well, I can talk to people all day long about cannabis… and hopefully inspire them to research the facts as we know them today.

Cannabis is an amazing alternative in health remedies that can reportedly alleviate typical disease problems and troubling side effects caused by synthetic prescriptions. This is Honey Smith Walls, a 21st century cannabis shaman… not a doctor… not a scientist. Raised by nuns and wolves in the verdant cattle pastures of the Oklahoma oil fields. I’m here to amplify the truth of this great big story and language of cannabis in historical, political and scientific terms… so you can make educated decisions about the medicine, you choose to ingest.

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Stacy Bobak 0:48

Stacey here, how are you?

Honey Smith Walls 0:51

I’m just fine. Gosh, it’s so good to get together with you. And thank you for joining my audience and me. I’m just so thrilled that you’re here honey.

Stacy Bobak 1:03

Thank you so much for the opportunity. I have seen you popping up in my life for the past little while and I’m really glad to be able to have this opportunity to talk to you one on one… it’s nice.

Honey Smith Walls 1:15

Well, I guess I already feel like we’re family because of our mutual love for Reverend Kelly Addison and the work that she does in the cannabis industry and also… you saw me jumping out of my skin and out of my chair the other day when we met at Cannabis Public School online. And you know, we’re schoolmates now. I just love that. That’s so much fun. I really regard what we’re doing as the engine of cannabis medicine,

Stacy Bobak 1:52

And education too, right… I see you on the Healer webinars.

Honey Smith Walls 1:56

Yes, yeah, I’m there every month. Right learning together.

Stacy Bobak 1:58

We have this common topic that we’re so passionate about.

Honey Smith Walls 2:04

Right. I’m thrilled to see it happening in the dental arena. And, you know, there’s grassroots doctors and nurses and pharmacists jumping in with both feet and and hanging on to everybody they can grab to drag into this industry with us, who has a real compassionate heart. I love watching the whole industry grow.

Stacy Bobak 2:31

And really, that’s what motivates me… is that need to tell others who don’t know that there are doctors and scientists and researchers who are studying this plant and that gives us a message to share…. that education to lean on.

Honey Smith Walls 2:47

Yeah. New new knowledge of an ancient plant that we’ve already been using since you know the dawn of time. So please,  Stacy, introduce yourself and your title and what you’re doing. Tell us a little bit about how you got into the cannabis industry why don’t you?

Stacy Bobak 3:12

I’m happy to Yes. So my name is Stacy Bobak. I have a past working and a long career as a registered dental hygienist. I’m up in Ontario, Canada. And I loved that job. You know, I went to school for this passion of mine in dental health. I learned so much and got so much back from that idea of patient centered care that I decided to take it further and start teaching dental hygiene as well.

However, when I was age 30, I discovered a breast lump and kind of was thrown into the medical system in Canada where you know, I had been incredibly healthy… never had any issues before. But then because of my young age and no family history, I had to really fight for a diagnosis… and then just kind of blindly into this cancer world of lots of appointments and just my whole life being shaken up really.

Then having to learn about a disease, not only for myself as someone with a healthcare background who wanted to make informed decisions about their health, but also in order to teach my family and those around me about what I’d be going through and really not even understanding myself how impactful this diagnosis would be on my future.

But oh my goodness, you know, I took that on. I’m a very positive person. I never ever thought a bad thing about it. I just knew that it was a test that I’d have to take on and own and, you know, do the things that I was told to do. So I did. We went through a very difficult year of treatments and surgeries and chemotherapy, radiation. And then I was told that due to the type of breast cancer…

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Honey Smith Walls 5:09

Hey my friends, I want to give you a tip about a neurologist I know and trust. Dr. Anthony Mazo is a highly rated specialist here in Melbourne, Florida.

As one of the first physicians to research and study cannabis since 2016 when it was legalized in Florida… Dr Mazo is not quick to prescribe traditional synthetic chemicals when he knows that this gentle live plant therapy will likely give needed relief.

I know this to be true because I had to see him for my own old lady neuropathy issues. He did not prescribe the usual stuff. He told me to go get a particular kind of cannabis instead and use it in a very specific way to find relief. And that is what every doctor in America should have in their little black bag.

His clinic details will be in my show notes for you. Why? Because he’s a trusted cannabis expert in the field of neurology right here in Melbourne. Dr. Anthony Mazo… at the Brevard Neuro Center on Nasa Boulevard. See his details in my show notes.

Honey Smith Walls 6:24 Apologies for that little blip but you were saying… it was the type of breast cancer?

Stacy Bobak 6:27

Yeah…the type of cancer that would inform a treatment plan of five additional years of treatment which would cause some negative side effects and the suggestion to treat those side effects was pain medications and very intense medications. So anyways, that’s what brought cannabis into my life… by recommendation of some people around me, saying have you ever thought about cannabis… so knowing that I enjoyed cannabis recreationally and socially allowed me the comfort to then research it for medical purposes.

And at that time there wasn’t a lot of information so it did take time to learn and understand it. For myself. And then as you can appreciate, once we understand that science, we have this passion and drive to teach others. So coming full circle back to my original passion… I decided to work more in the teaching space, the education space, so I had experience teaching dental hygienists. I had taken courses so my title now is certified cannabis educator based on the schooling I did for cannabis education.

Honey Smith Walls 7:42

Congratulations on that. I’m always so tickled to hear that somebody’s getting, you know, upper level education in cannabis now.

Stacy Bobak 7:50

It’s just amazing. It really is and I’m so glad I set that path.

Honey Smith Walls 7:56

So say your title again.

Stacy Bobak 8:02

As a certified cannabis educator, I decided to combine my love for this newfound science behind the cannabis plant and its therapeutic uses with my passion for oral and overall health.

So I started CannaDent back in late 2019. Going out into the public and teaching dental professionals, students, and colleagues about cannabis and why it’s important to be able to continue the conversation about cannabis with your clients, despite your personal knowledge or your personal opinion about cannabis as medicine. And it has had a very good return. You know, people are appreciative of that.

Honey Smith Walls 8:45

How in the world. Did you manage that with COVID?

Stacy Bobak 8:51

Right, I know well, just before COVID I was able to get into the school setting so I did go in and teach in person to the students and the staff very early on. And that helped motivate me to continue on through this little blip. But really I found COVID to be a blessing because I could transition it on the line and I could understand that it doesn’t have to be done tomorrow. I could take my time to develop this idea that I had and I connected with an online continuing education platform for dental professionals. Oh yes, graciously.

Honey Smith Walls 9:32

Oh fantastic.

Stacy Bobak 9:34

They brought me on to come in and talk.

Honey Smith Walls 9:36

Oh, wow. Well, why reinvent the wheel when you’ve got opportunities like that?

Stacy Bobak 9:41

That’s the motto I live by.

Honey Smith Walls 9:43

Yeah, work smarter, not harder.

Stacy Bobak 9:45

Support each other. Exactly. Yeah.

Honey Smith Walls 9:48

I love that. That’s excellent. And that’s how it’s going to happen in the medical fields because right now, 99 point 99 999 9% of the medical field doesn’t know anything about cannabis right? We just have to have the conversations and get them over just a little bit of their own propaganda… enough to do the research. Because there’s plenty of research out there now. I mean, it’s really growing and you know,  it may not all be from your country or mine, but that’s good. We need to be more of a global citizen and share information. So 100% It’s the same plant. It’s the same plant with the same science.

So tell me.. did you…. Oh, here go my little herd of monsters. That Papa coming home. Did you have any any backlash up there? In Canada with anybody in the medical industry?

Stacy Bobak 11:08

Well, I’m sure it exists. You know, we’re not perfect as we’re kind of trying to lead the way in this cannabis industry in general. Definitely. I find that in general education took a backseat and unfortunately, the medical side of cannabis, you know, it didn’t help the patients to establish a recreational federally legal cannabis industry.

Honey Smith Walls 11:38

Oh, I’m sorry. I don’t mean to interrupt but I’m so interested in what you’re going to say. Because that’s a problem and I feel the same way. We’ve got so many elders down here and when rec comes down to Florida and opens up, probably in 2024… I’m so nervous about it for them. Poor dears.

Stacy Bobak 12:02

We’re really fighting you know, I’m running this nonprofit for cannabis educators and we are all patients first or caregivers of someone who benefited from cannabis. So we are advocating for the patient and patient care, first and foremost, and we’re trying to create a model that would support this continuation of the medical industry but we are fighting the higher ups about how that looks, you know, access to medical cannabis and particularly access to cannabis education that really helps the patient. So sure, we can talk about accessing it in different modalities but where’s the hand holding beyond getting your authorization?

Honey Smith Walls 12:48

Precisely what I complain about the most! Nobody held my hand through this process. And it’s so complicated. There are so many puzzles to the whole piece. And everybody is so unique and everybody’s puzzle is different.

Stacy Bobak 13:06

Right? And then when you take away the ability for a bud tender to speak to that individuality…that person is getting a disservice.

Honey Smith Walls 13:19

In medical cannabis down here I’m fortunate enough to have five different medical marijuana dispensaries minutes from my front door, and yet, I can’t find a simple full plant CBD, in any of them. They’re all isolates.

And so well you know who I love for that is Dr. Dustin Sulak. But because I learned from him what the value of a whole plant – full spectrum product looks like… and then using the acidic version. Well, my audience knows what we’re talking about here because I preach this all the time. But the point is, we don’t have access to the products that we really need and that we’re already learning about.

Stacy Bobak 14:17

And then heaven forbid they start taking those options away. Right? That full extract cannabis isn’t an option one day… what would we do? It’s mind boggling, and actually pretty scary to think about them taking something away that we’ve had access to for 1000s of years.

Honey Smith Walls 14:35

Right? Let me go holler at my dogs stand by and I’ll just cut this out…one minute. Puppets knock it all. Stop. Looks like… Oh, it looks like there’s actually somebody at the door. Oh, well, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Okay, so here we go. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. It’s puppies and a cat at the door… Want to come in? Okay. All right, come in. I have five dogs and two big fat cats and a 90 year old spouse. Wow, that’s my pack.

Stacy Bobak 15:11

That’s a busy and exciting life.

Honey Smith Walls 15:15

And he builds remote control airplanes and then flies and crashes them… and then rebuilds them and sells them!

Stacy Bobak 15:29

Good passion and hobby project.

Honey Smith Walls 15:32

Yeah, we’ve enjoyed 30 years together. So he’s still pretty marvelous. So where were we I’m sorry for all the commotion. That’s, that’s the life of a podcast or from her from her queendom if you know what I mean.

Stacy Bobak 15:51

Of course, yes. Yeah. So just talking about the access to education and to products, knowing the benefits and ensuring that we can still find what we need as medical patients.

Honey Smith Walls 16:03

Right. So, Stacy, would you tell us what your day looks like when you get up first thing in the morning?

Stacy Bobak 16:11

I eat sleep and dream about cannabis education. That drives me totally. I keep two days a week available outside of my teaching jobs to the focus on cannabis education. So that looks like running the nonprofit which is called EduCannation. It’s a nonprofit for cannabis educators as I said, so whether you want to become a cannabis educator or you are a cannabis educator, we help you in your business. So we’re designing, not designing but welcoming industry professionals, to continue teaching us as educators so that we can either enhance our business of cannabis education, whatever that looks like for each person. And or continue just building our knowledge around the plant. And industry.

Honey Smith Walls 17:05

Well, I’m flabbergasted I wasn’t even aware of that part of your mission. I heard you drop the name of it a few minutes ago, but I pulled up your site at and that’s the the educational part of what you’re doing. In dentistry.

Stacy Bobak 17:30

Correct. You got it. Right. Yeah, it’s

Honey Smith Walls 17:35

Yes… Educannation. Oh, wonderful. I love new words. And you know our language is expanding in cannabis. I love endocannabinoidology, and an endocannabinoidologists Yeah, and endocannabinoidohm. I love those words, but it’s educate edge of shoot now I can’t say

Stacy Bobak 18:00

You got it. Our mission is to standardize and put the highest responsible level of cannabis education on the map. So sharing common language coming at it from a harm reduction lens and creating this community so that as you go out to offer cannabis education, however, that looks like for you, you have this support group behind you and that it’s all been kind of discussed and vetted, and it’s a safe place to come and talk about what you’re doing in your world.

Are you helping patients one on one? How’s that looking for you? Let’s create a model of this practice and delivery of cannabis education so that others can follow that same standard of care in this practice.

So my days look like that. Two days a week I’m advertising about it. I’m researching about it. I’m bringing in new speakers. I’m making new connections in the network, and just supporting our members and whatever they need. They’re hosting live events, that kind of thing. I also teach a cannabis program at a college online to teach people how to get into the industry. So it’s a cultivation and processing cannabis corp. And what’s fantastic. Yeah, it’s amazing. For me it’s a little bit of a pivot away from the medical side but learning all about the formulation of cannabis products, and then sending students out into do a field placement in a facility so then they get hands-on training. About how it looks to work in the cannabis industry here and it’s very, very rewarding. Teaching is not something I really thought I’d do… really being so focused on the dental world but it’s expanded my knowledge and my heart so much to be able to teach and then see them move on and grow.

Honey Smith Walls 19:49

oh right… actually do it right and see the world… the whole industry grow as a result of what they’ve learned. Oh, it’s really a heartwarming industry to watch because it’s compassionate, right? It’s a compassionate industry. And those who are not compassionate in this industry don’t find a home here very long.

But because we’re all about the patients…  that’s why I worry about Recreational. I don’t have anything at all against getting high. And and if you want to get high and have that happy euphoric feeling, I don’t mind one i Oda. I’ve had it before myself. It’s delicious.

But most elders down here in Florida have such a propagandized mind against marijuana and fear of falling, that they will not engage. So the fear is huge between elders and cannabis right now. And those who are brave enough to have already gotten into the industry are going around teaching their friends and family how wonderful they feel now, as a result of cannabis lifting their lives.

Stacy Bobak 21:17

Yeah, and maybe that’s bringing a solution to that potential problem. Let’s offer education… let’s go out into the community and teach those elders about how to be safe with cannabis and benefit from it and show them the stories of people improving their quality of life toward the end of life. And how valuable that can be. Just implementing something as simple as a CBD oil every day.

Honey Smith Walls 21:40

And getting rid of high anxiety. Oh my goodness. Oh, and by the way, we have Halloween down here. Do you up there? Of course.  It terrifies my my critters. And so I just want to remind everybody and would you too, as a favor to me… Remind your friends up there that CBD helps your animals during our ridiculous traditional nonsense like Halloween, New Year’s Eve, and Fourth of July down here for us. I know you’ve got your own independence day probably. And so you know, the knuckleheads down here that feel like that’s appropriate… even though we have so many war veterans with PTSD or patients with PTSD from anything… that are completely unnerved by fireworks. So CBD helps anxiety so much in ways that people don’t even have a clue.

Stacy Bobak 22:48

You got it! Absolutely. I will share that message.

Honey Smith Walls 22:54

You can see what a silly geek I am about my pets and their psychic needs or psyche needs.

Promo Mazo

Hey my friends, I want to give you a tip about a neurologist I know and trust. Dr. Anthony Mazo is a highly rated specialist here in Melbourne, Florida.

As one of the first physicians to research and study cannabis since 2016 when it was legalized in Florida… Dr Mazo is not quick to prescribe traditional synthetic chemicals when he knows that this gentle live plant therapy will likely give needed relief.

I know this to be true because I had to see him for my own old lady neuropathy issues. He did not prescribe the usual stuff. He told me to go get a particular kind of cannabis instead and use it in a very specific way to find relief. And that is what every doctor in America should have in their little black bag.

His clinic details will be in my show notes for you. Why? Because he’s a trusted cannabis expert in the field of neurology right here in Melbourne. Dr. Anthony Mazo… at the Brevard Neuro Center on Nasa Boulevard. See his details in my show notes.

Stacy Bobak 23:20

I’m already offering free 30 minute webinars… you know I brought this up on Reverend Kelly’s spirituality show yesterday but it’s so amazing to see this evolution of education, how many people now understand those basics of CBD helping with anxiety and how it interacts with a pet’s endocannabinoid system. And we’re seeing these new words in our language come more and more common to people. Maybe it’s just being in the industry. I’m speaking to more people… but you know, the more that we get out there into the communities, this is becoming more common knowledge and I’m so happy about that. I love that educannation is moving forward… the general public’s understanding of how cannabis can help.

Honey Smith Walls 24:02

Well I love that educannation is moving forward.

Stacy Bobak 24:06

I didn’t mean to slip…

Honey Smith Walls 24:09

Perfectly darling Freudian slip.

Stacy Bobak 24:14

So the point is that there’s many resources… you don’t have to know everything. But if you can find that community of supporters, maybe someone is an expert in CBD and pet care and someone else understands the acidic cannabinoids and you can kind of lean on each other and support each other’s little areas of expertise.

Honey Smith Walls 24:31

There you know elder fear is huge with cannabis, and just getting people to understand they’re gonna have to be their own Alchemist, that’s a feat in itself. It takes a little courage from people to try these things.

Stacy Bobak 24:51

Something new, if you can step outside of your comfort zone…

Honey Smith Walls 24:57

Yeah, support. Yes. Yes. So it’s a very complicated subject. With a huge spectrum, it’s so big, it can encompass the rebuilding and repair of our entire world. And sometimes I get stuck in my head trying to use the right metaphor for how big this really is. When we’re just trying to get you to the point of here. Just try a little CBD and your soul can be settled. Yeah, things can be better.

Stacy Bobak 25:43

You bring up a good point of how much work is still to do and and why we’re so passionate. You know, I have butterflies and goosebumps just listening to you mention that, you know, it can make such an impact. And when I think back to the past when we didn’t have this access to information, what life would have been like… so let’s look forward and continue on this mission of putting cannabis education out there with a positive spin. Just how many lives could it change and improve… that’s what motivates me every day.

Honey Smith Walls 26:15

So I love watching many different industries rise up in cannabis and one of those is the farming and the manufacturing end of cannabis. And in order to use hemp for industrial purposes, we have to have a manufacturing plant with a decordicator and it’s a huge process. The United States had a whole sum total of one. Wow. Yeah. And we might be in the process of starting two more. Okay, and I’m wondering what Canada looks like. Because there’s so much property up there with cannabis growing on it. And if you’re seeing any move in the industrial portion of the hemp up there?

Stacy Bobak 27:13

Although it’s not my area of expertise, I can speak to what I know from my studies and from my colleagues as well. For example, the co-founder of Educannation, Shawna Dunbar, who lives in Quebec, she just built and insulated her home with hempcrete.

Honey Smith Walls 27:33

Really? Yes. Wonderful.

Stacy Bobak 27:36

Yes, exactly. So there are companies here that are looking into that, you know, I actually know some hemp farmers, and I don’t know a lot about the process of getting that product into the producer and how they bring that to a market per se. But yeah, Shauna has done a lot of research around not only that application of hempcrete and the benefits of a healthy home. Oh, it’s amazing. But then she went to work and she she did the work herself and put it into the walls and people were following that journey and learning from it.

So absolutely, there is a need and I totally believe that hemp will change the planet 100%. But we’re in Canada… I think it’s regulated a little bit differently. And then I… I don’t know this for sure… But I imagine that those farmers are looking more maybe toward the CBD side of things. But I shouldn’t say that in general, because I know there’s a lot of fiber focused hemp farmers as well. And not only in Canada, but around the world. I had the opportunity last year to go to Portugal. Wonderful!

Yeah, I met a lot of lovely people who grow hemp and create things from hemp both therapeutically and textiles. And I know that is a big thing for the agricultural world who continues ideas of growing and processing hemp… so it’ll be interesting to see where it goes globally for sure.

Honey Smith Walls 29:09

For real… Bump a little note to your friend and tell her my audience would love to hear her tell that story about building her hempcrete walls and stuff. Okay. You know I was really hoping that Project Hemp down here would send a panel of people down to Florida after the big hurricane and tell them the best way to rebuild using hemp products and stuff, whatever they use. It’s not just hempcrete… there’s so many more hemp products that can go into building now… in flooring and walls and roofing and in hempcrete and other things like hemp tiles for your flooring and anyway sorry, I didn’t mean to go off on all that. But like I said, there’s just so many uses industrially for cannabis that we’re totally missing out on. You know they cleaned up Chernobyl by using hemp because it sucks up heavy metals out of the soil. That’s my that’s my favorite too. It’s truly one of my favorites.

That and telling people the secret to taming their THC. You know Bud Russo, Ethan Dr. Ethan Russo? Yes. Well, I loved his white papers on THC and what the terpene beta caryophyllene would do and where you can find beta caryophyllene. And my audience knows this… in lemons and black pepper and lots of other foods. And so just balance out a little overdose of too much THC by having a nice bunch of lemonade or nice peppers on say… a peppercorn steak…

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Stacy Bobak 7:58

And when you understand the science behind that, right… Beta caryophyllene is one of the terpenes that acts as a cannabinoid and what that’s doing to your endocannabinoid receptors… just taking a little bit of control back over your health and being able to manage those potential adverse effects of too much THC… or even better yet, preventing them by knowing your ideal dose or your ideal top products or your ideal profile of cannabinoids to terpenes ingredients in the plant. You’re right… that plant has so many beneficial compounds to it. We’re just scratching the surface.

Honey Smith Walls 8:39

I don’t know if you’ve had the opportunity to read Russ Hudson’s book yet… The Big Book of Terps… about a four and a half pound reference book of terpenes. It costs $160 And girl… it is worth every penny. If you weren’t already a terpenoid geek… it will turn you into one and change the way you start cooking. It’s just amazing. So I talk about that book all the time. I just love that.

So anyway, tell us where we can get in touch with you. We want more information about either one of the mighty organizations that you’re totally completely inundated in.

Stacy Bobak 9:31

Absolutely. And again, thank you for this opportunity to share that. You can look up my websites or Educannation.Info  and you can email If you want more information about either topic, dental stuff or cannabis educators stuff which could also look like health guidance or coaching as a patient.

Honey Smith Walls 10:02

Yeah, I think I’m gonna be calling you on that for myself and going over some things with you. That sounds very interesting. And it’s piqued my curiosity about maybe where you can help me a little bit with my own situation going on. So yeah… I can’t thank you enough for giving my audience a peek behind the curtain up there and what you’re doing in the dental world… teaching the world to help others spread the good news about cannabis. And I’m so glad that we’re coming to know each other through all of these places that we’re going to and learning more and more about cannabis. My audience knows I’m not a doctor or a scientist. I’m just a great big old science geek and armchair nerd about cannabinoids and how cannabis can help all of us. So I appreciate being in the same room with the educators like yourself, honey.

Stacy Bobak 11:04

Well, the feeling is mutual. Again, you know, we all come at this with a passion and if we keep on a mission of just sharing the facts, then no one can dispute it because it’s based on the fact and you’re the perfect person to educate your audience. They’ve found you. They’ve connected with you and that’s purposeful. Yeah,  little by little. Yes.

Honey Smith Walls 11:27

Thank you for saying that out loud. It’s true and it feels so validating to be reminded of that. So while you’re precious to me, I’m grateful for you and we’re sending love from the US and hope you have a great rest of your week Darling. I’ll see you again on the interwebs somewhere.  Thank you so much. All right. Bye bye. Okay, bye.

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Over past episodes of Cannaba Verum, we’ve listened to some amazing scientists and medical professionals talk about their discoveries and patient successes as hundreds of questionable compounds rise to the public grasp. I am especially interested in the pharmacists movement becoming an integral part of this new medicinal choice.

Watch this machine roll into action through conversations with pharmacy doctors all over the nation like Dr. Leah Johnson and Dr. Codi Peterson out West and Dr. Alan Ao up North. There are so many more getting involved now… these are just a few who have come on my show to explain the situation and it’s fascinating.

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Victory Rejuvenation Center – Orlando, Florida

My Neurologist and Cannabis Expert Medical Marijuana Doctor in Melbourne, FL:

Anthony Mazo, M.D.

Brevard Neuro Center

(321) 733-2711

315 E. Nasa Blvd.

Melbourne, FL 32901.    

All opinions are my own and should not be mistaken as medical advice.

(1) Microdosing –

(2) Concentrates –

(3) Cannabis Helps Dementia Podcast – Anchor.FM/cannabishelpsdementia

(4) Society of Cannabis Clinicians –

(5) Take the Pledge –

(6) Handbook for Clinicians – Principles and Practice –

(7) The Cannigma Podcast =

(8) Curious About Cannabis Podcast =

Show Notes:

It’s nice to know that higher cannabis education has begun for serious medical students and you’re about to meet one of the teachers. She’s in a field nobody should miss but lots often do… Stacy Bobak is a cannabis expert in Dental Hygiene. Join us for an overview of a huge industry where cannabis might not seem like a fit… but Stacy will connect the dots for you. Cmon in….                    Educannation.Info

Russ Hudson – The Big Book of Terps –

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