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Ladies… you’re in for a treat and gentlemen, please stay and take note and help the women in your family understand the necessity of learning about the subject of this show… even if it may be a little uncomfortable… you could help too.
The subject of this show affects all women and everybody around them. Today, we’re going to learn some facts about the female aging process from a specialist in the field of “womanology” and “lady truths”… we’re talkin hormones with a woman you’re gonna wanna know… Dr. Genester Wilson-King… right after the intro:
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Honey Smith Walls
Welcome to season three of the Cannaba Verum podcast, the cannabis truth podcast. I speak the language of cannabis freely and uncensored while educating my audience on safe use of this live plant therapy. You should know what’s in your cannabis. What’s good and what’s not. It does not come with an FDA stamp of approval… yet.
Using cannabis mindfully as medication is a different concept in Western healthcare philosophy, specifically the past 100 years. There’s a lot to learn and reconsider. The information you’ll find here comes straight from the scientists and clinicians doing the work and reporting their findings in real time through various live online outlets. The scientific truth of cannabis is finally getting out and is wide open for all to see at respected medical sites like www.pubmed.gov and JAMA, the Journal of American Medical Association (jamanetwork.com).
I’m right there in the thick of it with all those titans of medicine as a fly on the wall. Because I’m not a doctor. I didn’t go to med school. I did take dozens of private cannabis courses offered by cannabis expert scientists online over the past few years and slowly began to see and understand the bigger picture.
Well, I can talk to people all day long about cannabis… and hopefully inspire them to research the facts as we know them today. Cannabis is an amazing alternative in health remedies that can reportedly alleviate typical disease problems and troubling side effects caused by synthetic prescriptions.
This is Honey Smith Walls, a 21st century cannabis shaman… not a doctor… not a scientist. Raised by nuns and wolves in the verdant cattle pastures of the Oklahoma oil fields. I’m here to amplify the truth of this great big story and language of cannabis in historical, political and scientific terms… so you can make educated decisions about the medicine you choose to ingest.
Seg 1
Honey Smith Walls 0:07
Oh, it sounds like I have you. Oh, there we go…Oh my goodness. It is so nice to hear your voice. Welcome and blessings to you Dr. Wilson-King.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 0:22
All right and I’m very happy to be here.
Honey Smith Walls 0:25
Oh good. No, it’s just it’s just so lovely to just have a little bit of time to myself with you. I’m doing… that sounds very selfish. All of a sudden you’ve got a big audience who’s going to be listening to this? That’s the reason that I invited you so that they can have the benefit of time with you like I’ve had.
Full disclosure Dear audience, Dr. Genester Wilson-King is my doctor too. But I’m just lucky that way because I found her through cannabis, and then realized she was close enough that I could take advantage of her healthcare. And so that’s how all that happened. And then I’m bringing her to you because of what happened to me. We just start with… Would you mind telling our audience what brought you to cannabis as an obstetrician and gynecologist?
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 1:24
Sure. I’ve always been a person who prefer to do natural things to the body. I didn’t really agree that you needed a pharmaceutical for every little thing. Sure if I have a bladder infection, give me an antibiotic. Not that I’m against it. Totally. But I do think that we can do many things to help our bodies heal themselves. So between 2002-2010, probably more around 2000 between six and eight… I read Lester Grinspoon’s book: Marijuana Reconsidered and Marijuana The Forbidden Medicine. And that opened my eyes.
I had always been… I’d always talked about supplements and eating the right foods and exercising and all those sorts of things. But here was a natural medicine that has helped so many people along the way over the 1000s of years that it’s been around. So once I got the opportunity to include it in my regimen, when we were allowed to do cannabis recommendations starting in 2016, I added that to my armamentarium in my practice.
Honey Smith Walls 2:53
Have you found the transition of your patient load difficult to this idea?
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 3:00
No, not really. I’m one of the people that I don’t try to convince people to do what I suggest. I explain it, give them the reasons why and also talk about any adverse possibilities. And if you educate people enough, they make the decision that’s best for them and then you have to respect that. That’s kind of the way I’ve always practiced medicine. What I did is I added cannabis as a part of my toolbox in helping people feel better get healthier and achieve the level of wellness they wish to achieve is not my level of wellness… It’s their level of wellness.
Honey Smith Walls 3:52
What’s the most important thing for a mature woman to know about herself? Pardon me… after we wake up on a handful of prescription pills and try to find a new way to live?
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 4:04
Yeah that’s a loaded question. The most important thing a woman needs to know about herself when she wakes up and finds herself on a handful of medications.
Honey Smith Walls 4:15
That was me. And it took me 25 years to find you. Because I didn’t know the medical system. I didn’t understand what I was supposed to do. I was just like a little girl… like just follow the doctor’s orders. And go to the doctor and then the doctor sends me off to 10 other different specialty doctors in network of course and I don’t know where I’m going or what I’m doing or how to maneuver any of the medical systems and just find myself, you know, 50 years older on a handful of pills.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 4:50
Yeah. Well, the first thing I would say that there’s four words that I’d say every woman needs to know. Hormones are your friend.
That’s what I’m going to say because what has happened over the years is male researchers…. And I don’t blame them to a certain extent…. I mean, they could only work with what they had… but they have made us afraid of our own hormones.
Women have been afraid of estrogen. They’ve been afraid of hormone therapy. Actually, it was because of the fact that when hormones were initially used, women were given horse’s estrogen and synthetic progestin. It wasn’t even progesterone.
So of course there were side effects. I don’t know who thought that a horse’s estrogen would work in a human and a human woman, much less. So… We know that Premarin which is the the estrogen you get from pregnant mares urine from Pre Mar In, pregnant mares urine.
Honey Smith Walls:
Ah, yes, that’s why they named it that… that’s funny little factoid
Dr. Genester Wilson-King
Yeah, exactly. And then a synthetic progestin… who thought that that was going to be appropriate? It was so inappropriate, and that’s why hormones received a bad reputation.
Honey Smith Walls:
I grew up being afraid of them.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King:
Yes, I was in one of my protocol trainings… I was in this hospital… It was on the main line in Philadelphia and a very popular writer of a soap opera was taking Premarin and by that time, we had learned that Premarin estrogen alone can cause your uterus, the uterine lining to grow and become cancerous.
So a lot of women just stopped taking Premarin. But she felt so good on Premerin, and so wanted to stay on it that she would come to our hospital once a year and get a DNC to make sure she didn’t have cancer in her uterus so she could stay on her Premarin.
Wow.
That’s how determined some women have been to keep on their hormones. But of course, we’ve got better ways to do that now. But women don’t have to have all of that done. And we know at least many of us now, many of us in the field of hormone therapy, know that if managed properly, hormones can be a lifesaver for women. They really can… all the changes that happen with menopause can most of them certainly can be prevented or certainly significantly delayed.
Honey Smith Walls 8:10
When do women need to start thinking about menopause and the Para menopausal stage and then the menopausal stage, post menopausal stage so we’re talking a lifetime of stages here.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 8:23
So exactly. The stage where you notice changes in your personality and your body in your cycles. When you start to notice one or two or more changes… Your first thought should be what are my hormones doing? What’s happening? Because this forces the lowering, or the decrease in levels or changes in levels of your hormones to start in the mid to late 30s. And most of the time during that period of time we don’t really recognize… we don’t necessarily feel anything… because they’re slight changes.
Some women actually do feel the slightest change in their hormone levels. They have symptoms, but they don’t realize it’s hormones because we’re not taught about that. So they go to the doctor, look, I can’t sleep all of a sudden… I’m just having struggled trouble sleeping, or I’m more anxious than I’ve ever been. Why am I getting upset over everything? Why am I putting on weight? I haven’t changed anything. Yeah, those are signs of hormone imbalance. You don’t need an antacid to help your digestion. You don’t need a sleep medicine. You need someone to check your hormone levels.
Honey Smith Walls 9:50
Well my GP didn’t do that… Thank you very much. And that’s a problem.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 9:55
Yes, that’s a problem. That’s why women… you have to become your own advocate. If you know, or you’re suspecting it’s a hormone issue or even if you just want to find out if it’s a hormone issue, and you do go to your primary but they don’t think so and they give you something else… It’s up to you to be your own advocate and say I gotta find somebody that can look at my hormones.
And then you… well nowadays of course, you can go on the internet and you can find all sorts of people who do hormone management. But see then you need to find the right person. And everything is not for everybody. Some women do great with pellets and some women don’t. Some women do great with things they can take on a daily basis. So they feel a little more in control of their levels.
And if there is a an adverse effect, then if you’re taking your hormones every day… just don’t take them for a few days, and let whatever is happening resolve on it’s own and so on. But you need to find a physician who can manage your hormones, and you’ll know… you’ll know.
Honey Smith Walls 11:13
Boy I do. I know. I know the one who…. let me just remind our darling audience here. Dr. Wilson-King’s care has completely changed my life around after 25 years of struggling with my regular doctors. 25 years. I’m not kidding. That’s how long Lewi and I have been off the boat and living in a house and on land and sitting down and not exercising like we did on the boat… you know, and getting very sedentary and suddenly after 25 years of being fed prescription after prescription after prescription for blood pressure and not sleeping, low energy and nausea, arthritis and all of those things. After 25 years of struggling with all of that my blood pressure is now normal because I went to see a woman’s doctor, Dr. Wilson-King who took me seriously. I’m sleeping all night now. I don’t get up several times a night to have to go to the bathroom and relieve my bladder. My energy returned. I’m 68 years old. I just told her the last time I saw Dr. Wilson-King that I feel like I’m in my early 40s. This is success in my medical career as a human on this planet. This is what success looks like.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 12:49
Isn’t it wonderful to be able to say that?
Honey Smith Walls 12:50
And not only that… you helped me with fine tuning my cannabis regimen that has taken over a lot of the other issues or helped me with issues that I was getting a single prescription for… for sleeping for instance, for settling that spasming bladder down at night so I can sleep all night long… for getting rid of the nausea that afflicted me for 25 years daily. All of that stuff, and it’s because you got me on hormones, lots of blood tests, lots of that funny little machine in your office that I hang on to and clamp down on and stick my feet in the right positions for and it sends its little magical waves through me and tells you all kinds of stuff that I couldn’t believe… pages and pages and pages of data on the insides of my body and what’s going on. And I never got that kind of care from just a general practitioner, you know, because, well they don’t have time.
And that brings me to the why they don’t have time… because they’re on the insurance program. And you don’t do that. You don’t accept insurance payment in your practice… is that right? You don’t work with insurance but would you explain that to the audience? And thank you so much.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 14:27
Absolutely.
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By Honey Smith Walls
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I know this to be true because I had to see him for my own old lady neuropathy issues. He did not prescribe the usual synthetic stuff. He told me to go get a particular kind of cannabis instead… and use it in a specific way to find relief.
And that is what every doctor in America should have in their little black bag.
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Seg 2
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 0:06
I want to be able to, number one, spend time with patients… when you’re dealing with women and hormones, and I primarily deal with women, I do you have some males, for sure. I primarily deal with women because that’s who I’ve been taking care of most of my professional life. But I know that women are sometimes very hesitant about hormones. They’re saying they’re going to get breast cancer or it’s going to do this because of all of the myths that are out there. So I need to spend time with patients when we’re talking about hormones. Then also, I need to be able to have time to educate the patient. Patients will appreciate the time that I spend with them and the fact that I look at the entire body. Don’t just focus on one thing. We look at other things too, and I can know my patients.
Honey Smith Walls 1:58
Ladies, I want to tell you it’s a therapy session with Dr. Genester… she is so wonderful and she knows everything about you so that you can sense she can help you through whatever it is. I’m not kidding you. I’m just sitting here gushing. But having time with Dr. Wilson-King is unlike any other doctor’s experience you’ll have because she’s there for you solely, and not having to worry about all of that other paperwork and extraneous stress on a doctor’s business.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 2:32
Yeah you know, you don’t want patients sitting in the waiting room for hours. That’s just unnecessary and disrespectful to patients. So I have… if your appointments at 11 I’m going to see you at 11 and we’re going to… My follow up appointments are an hour my initial appointment is up to two hours. So we don’t have to take that whole time if you don’t want to. But just… patients are very comforted by the fact that they know they have time with me… they can ask all their questions. We can look at things from doing a cannabis recommendation… We can go on the internet and look at the various licensees and look to see what products are there and I can talk to you about them and we can decide which one would be best for you.
With hormones, there’s so many different ways to administer them. We can find out what works for you. There’s different dosing and I explain all of that. So it isn’t a quickie visit… you’re not in and out… and I’m not standing there with one hand on the door trying to get out of the room to go to the next patient. As I’m talking to you. It’s a calm atmosphere where you can talk and get all your questions answered and feel very comfortable with what you’re doing. So that’s why I started this practice and I really started it half a day a week. I had my conventional OBGYN practice, mainly GYN at that time, and I started a half a day a week in a different office. And within a year I was seeing patients every day in that office as as opposed to back and forth between the conventional practice. So it just blew up and people liked the fact that they could spend time with me and they would bring in questions and we would go over all of them. And they feel comfortable.
Honey Smith Walls 4:31
More than that, we feel cared for… we feel cared for. It’s just so wonderful to get to spend that time with you. We don’t feel rushed. We feel very cared for. My regular audience hears me talk about you all the time. But this next section may come as a shock to a lot of people… This next subject shocked me when I first heard about it. And you and I’ve had several discussions about pregnant women and nursing mothers using cannabis… would you care to illuminate that issue for our new listeners? Maybe who’ve never even considered that subject.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King 5:17
I rarely talk about this in public just because people can sometimes misconstrue what I say…The best things for pregnant women to ingest are healthy, real food, whole foods, clean water, fresh air, and they should limit white sugar, avoid processed foods and foods with no nutritional value, and I also recommend that women not ingest or smoke drugs of any kind, including tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, opiates, methamphetamines, cannabis and pharmaceuticals during pregnancy.
So what I’m saying is, pregnancy is not the time to say… oh yeah, let’s go get high on cannabis and smoke some weed. No, that’s not the time to do it. If you are on a medical regiment or if you have a medical problem, and cannabis works for it. That’s the time you talk with your obstetrician or a specialist who can you can consult with about how do I do this during pregnancy.
And there’s also another issue… Hyperemesis Gravidarum is where you have nausea and vomiting that is so severe that you end up in the hospital needing IV hydration and some women even end up needing to be fed intravenously, because they’re unable to keep anything down and that happens in about point 3% of all pregnancies, and it is quite devastating.
Honey Smith Walls
Quite. Yes.
Dr. Genester Wilson-King
Now I do go through quite an extensive counseling session with patients who are pregnant and want to use and are coming to find out about how they can continue their use of cannabis. Yeah, and the benefits really have to outweigh the risks. I do try to number one, try to find out if we can go without cannabis. Number two, try to find a non cannabis alternative. And then if we’re going to use cannabis, we’re going to use it in the safest way we can use it.
Honey Smith Walls 12:50
And we already make cannabinoids in our body… Endo-cannabinoids like anandamide and 2AG. My audience has heard me talking about that before but for those of you who don’t know, and I just heard the other day Dr. Cody Peterson saying there’s as many as seven endocannabinoids now. I can’t name the other five but the point is, cannabis discovery is just burgeoning. And it’s so wonderful to learn about the different compounds and what their uses are… not just the cannabinoids, but the terpenes and flavonoids as well, because they’re so medicinally valuable, and yet we have to somehow figure out these formulas and be able to translate them into some sort of alchemy that the typical patient can figure out. What? I got to figure out if I need THC or CBD? or I need them both… and what’s a terpenoid and how many flavonoids do what and how do I find that out? Because none of the dispensaries are talking about them. You know?
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Bumper Outro:
Dear Friends, you’ll want to come back next week to hear the rest of our juicy conversation about women and life lessons and hormones and cannabis and more…. on the next Cannaba Verum podcast. Remember what Dr. Wilson-King said, “Hormones are our friends!” So let’s stop being afraid of them, learn the modern facts, and use plants to help ourselves through the natural aging process.
Thank you for joining us today and be sure to pass this information on to your girlfriends and daughters. It’s crucial for women to understand their bodies and stop being afraid of them. Preventative Care is what we’re goin for! If you’re in the Orlando vicinity, (I drive an hour away from Melbourne) pick up that phone and call Dr. Wilson-King. You will be sooo happy you did.
Outro:
You’ve been listening to another Cannaba Verum podcast with 21st century cannabis shaman Honey Smith Walls about the importance of using verifiably safe products. The process of getting a diagnosis from your family doctor and taking your records to a cannabis specialist can lead you to the correct cannabinoid therapy for those issues. Otherwise, you’re just your own guinea pig looking for answers without any foundational knowledge or ability to determine the best choices or strategies.
To find a qualified cannabis expert in your area… visit www.cannabisclinicians.org.
It is a national society of cannabis experts and you’ll see that link down in my show notes.
Unless otherwise proven by a reputable third party lab test, please be advised that all street weed is contaminated. It may do grave harm to a patient with a delicate immune system who already has inflammatory issues like arthritis, IBS, fibromyalgia or worse.
Subscribe to the Cannaba Verum podcast and become part of a project to understand the effects of cannabis on the public. Your anecdotal testimony is priceless to me. Medical citations are posted on my podcast blog when you visit CannabaVerum.com. That’s CannabaVerum.com. Hey, and one last thing… Would you take an extra second to give my podcast a Like and Review? It’s like Bitcoin crack for the algorithms. Thanks so much. Hey, I hear the cows calling.
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Sources:
Cannaba Verum is Latin for Cannabis Truth. Sourcing factual information about cannabis hasn’t always been easy for a variety of reasons. However now because of modern innovations, it is. My sources are from leaders in cannabis science like:
Roger Adams, U.S. Organic Chemist who isolated the structure of CBD,
Raphael Mechoulam, Israeli Organic Chemist who isolated the structure of THC,
Ethan Russo, Dir R&D International Cannabis and Cannabinoids Institute
Dustin Sulak, DO – my favorite doctor at healer.com, teaching the art of Cannabis Healing to the world, and other industry greats like:
Rev. Dr. Kymron DeCesare, Ed Rosenthal, Jack Herer, Michael Backes, and Michael Pollen and so many more… plus I use classical sites like: PubMed.gov, JAMAnetwork.com, ResearchGate.com. I listen to several daily podcasts to keep up with the latest cannabis news across the nation and throughout the world like: Dr. Codi Peterson et al on The Cannigma Podcast, MJTodayDaily.com and MarijuanaMoment.net. I trust the CBDProject.org and CannabisScienceTech.com. I watch the National Cannabis Industry Association (NCIA) at: thecannabisindustry.org and many more like: NCIA’s Cannabis Industry VOICE (CannabisRadio.com)
Over past episodes of Cannaba Verum, we’ve listened to some amazing scientists and medical professionals talk about their discoveries and patient successes as hundreds of questionable compounds rise to the public grasp. I am especially interested in the pharmacists movement becoming an integral part of this new medicinal choice.
Watch this machine roll into action through conversations with pharmacy doctors all over the nation like Dr. Leah Johnson and Dr. Codi Peterson out West and Dr. Alan Ao up North. There are so many more but these have come on my show to explain the situation and it’s fascinating.
You’ll find Citations available on my podcast blog at cannabaverum.com
PS: Helping society get past the fear of using cannabis will be a lifelong journey for me. This industry is just opening up and most patients and doctors are seriously cannabis naive and need help understanding where to turn for trustworthy information.
If you need help opening that cannabis discussion with your family doctor, please reach out and grab the Dear Doctor Letter I wrote for this exact purpose. It will explain your decision to try cannabis and ask for their help in monitoring your labs and progress. It will also show them where they can find medical research on the subject of your diagnosis and the effects of cannabis.
You’ll find that letter at cannabaverum.com
My specialist in hormonal help: Dr. Genester Wilson-King, M.D. and Founder
Victory Rejuvenation Center – Orlando, Florida
My Neurologist and Cannabis Expert and Medical Marijuana Doctor in Melbourne, FL:
Anthony Mazo, M.D.
Brevard Neuro Center
(321) 733-2711
315 E. Nasa Blvd.
Melbourne, FL 32901.
All opinions are my own and should not be mistaken as medical advice.
- Microdosing – https://healer.com/cbd-cannabis-dosage-guide-project-cbd-interview-with-dr-sulak/
- Concentrates – https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29307505/
- Cannabis Helps Dementia Podcast – Anchor.FM/cannabishelpsdementia
- Society of Cannabis Clinicians – https://www.cannabisclinicians.org/
- Take the Pledge – GreenTakeover.com
- Handbook for Clinicians – Principles and Practice – https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393714180
- The Cannigma Podcast = https://cannigma.com/podcast/behind-the-scenes-on-cannabis-normalization-with-jm-pedini/
- Curious About Cannabis Podcast = https://cacpodcast.com/
Show Notes:
Dr. Genester Wilson-King is going to talk about the facts of life for women. Seriously… when was the last time your doctor checked your hormones? Never? Right… because insurance requires them to hurry through their daily patient load and they don’t have the time it takes to study your medical data.
Well hormonal therapies may not be on your radar yet… but they should’ve been a long time ago. Women need 3 hormones all their lives. How many are showing up in YOUR bloodstream? Find out what you need to know to balance your system and feel good with energy. What’s all that got to do with cannabis? Well did you know your medications won’t work properly with hormonal imbalance? There’s so much to learn!
Dr. Genester Wilson-King
Lester Grinspoon’s books:
Marijuana Reconsidered
Marijuana The Forbidden Medicine
