CV 176 Rev. Kelly Part 2

September 5, 2022

Intro Bumper:

Hey I’m so glad you came back to hear more from Reverend Kelly Addison as we compare cannabis notes between U.S. and Canada and the frustrations from legislation as we try to get our respective governments to acknowledge the value of this incredible plant we love.  They’ve got an interesting system up there, far superior to ours right now… but wait till you hear one of her personal stories with the plant! Comin up right after the intro:


Welcome to season three of the Cannaba Verum podcast, the cannabis truth podcast.

I speak the language of cannabis freely and uncensored while educating my audience on safe use this live plant therapy. You should know what’s in your cannabis…what’s good and what’s not.

It does not come with an FDA stamp of approval yet. Using cannabis mindfully as medication is a different concept in Western healthcare philosophy, specifically of the past 100 years. There’s a lot to learn and reconsider.

The information you’ll find here comes straight from scientists and clinicians doing the work and reporting their findings in real time through various live online outlets.

The scientific truth of cannabis is finally getting out and is wide open for all to see at respected medical sites like and JAMA, the Journal of American Medical Association… and I’m right there in the thick of it with all those titans of medicine… as a fly on the wall.

Because I’m not a doctor, nor did I go to med school. But I did take dozens of private cannabis courses and still engage in continuing education offered by cannabis expert scientists over the past few years and slowly began to see and understand the bigger picture.

Now I talk to people all day long about cannabis and hopefully inspire them to research the facts as we know them today. Cannabis is an amazing alternative in health remedies. It can reportedly alleviate typical disease problems and troubling side effects, even those caused by synthetic prescriptions.

This is Honey Smith Walls, a 21st century cannabis shaman, not a doctor, not a scientist, raised by nuns and wolves in the verdant cattle pastures of the Oklahoma oil fields. I’m here to amplify the truth of this great big story of cannabis in historical, political, and scientific terms, so you can make educated decisions about the medicine you choose to ingest.

Reverend Kelly 0:00

Stacy Bobek is one of our country’s leading cannabis educators. She has developed a brand called CannaDent ( where she comes from a dental hygienist background. She goes and teaches students. Medical students can dental hygienist about the endocannabinoid system because they’re not learning it in school. It’s like specialized. You want to see somebody come in and talk about the endocannabinoid system. Then they bring her in to talk to doctors. Right?

Honey Smith Walls 0:28

It’s frustrating. I know. I was at my neurologist’s yesterday, Dr. Anthony Mazo here in Melbourne. And he was one of the first cannabis experts in Melbourne, and he’s been at this a while now but he was truly a non believer in cannabis to start… and then his patients began using it and fessing up to him, you know, confessing that they were using it, they were outliving their prognoses. And he couldn’t deny the science, you know, what was happening in front of him… and then he studied the science when he began educating himself on it, so you know what he says to me yesterday… I’m in there to see him about some neuroses in my hand and he says, “Cannabis is more vital than water!”

I’d never heard such a statement before. I didn’t think there was anything more vital than water except maybe air but of course there is and of course it’s cannabis because it is the only thing… he went on to say… that creates and maintains our homeostasis. All of our system throughout our entire body needs it. And this resistance to it is utterly mind boggling.

Reverend Kelly 1:39

I’m screaming right now because this has been something I’ve been saying for so long. And I wish that my husband was right beside me here to hear you say that a doctor was saying that because I’ve been shouting for a long time. We need cannabis from birth. The moment that we as humans come off of our mother’s breast milk if we’re fortunate enough to receive breast milk, which is the only real true place that you can receive the cannabinoids that your endocannabinoid system needs.

Honey Smith Walls 2:07

Yep, right?

Reverend Kelly 2:09

You need it immediately you need it as soon as you’re born. And then if you don’t have it, that’s when you develop the special needs. The disorders in your mind that’s when you develop chronic pain or allergies, things that you should never get… you should be balanced and healthy from birth.

If we as parents started giving our children cannabis… well…. Now I’m not saying get kids high. I’m not saying get mothers high. What I’m saying is let’s find the cannabinoids that our endocannabinoid system needs for that lock and key balance for homeostasis. And that’s the only way.

That’s right. Stop eating the meat. Stop. Start eating the plants and give yourself cannabis in whatever form it is. Not everybody can tolerate THC. What is the cannabinoid that you can tolerate? What is it that your body needs on top of your skin on top of your head inside of your body? Find that out and all so much beautiful research like we’re saying Dr. Rafael Mechoulam… nonstop still going at 92.

And there’s so many scientists all over the world that are all over and more research and more money is going to come out of it. We’re just at the very very beginning. And you know what, Honey? 100 years from now they’re gonna look back on how the legalization started, how the cannabis trends started, and they’re gonna hear your podcast, and they’re gonna hear these and we’re gonna be like, that’s how it started.

And finally, there’ll be a world where everything is balanced because if we grow hemp in our soil, as agricultural products and make everything carbon neutral with our hemp growing, that will rebalance our planet and then when we have cannabis as consumption and even hemp is food then our bodies balance as well!

Honey Smith Walls 3:53

This is exactly the forecast I see as well. If if if if we can get the people in control, to say the truth, to say the truth, but I want to ask you something about the difference between the Canadian laws and the US laws…  it’s free across your entire country to use cannabis however you want to… correct? Yes. Okay. I want to know… is your country having a problem with cannabis hyperemesis… you know, where people just can’t use it anymore? They sort of become allergic to it. And that just keeps them with upset tummy all the time and blah, blah blah. Do you have that issue in Canada among your viewers or anything? Because what the scientists say down here and pardon me for interrupting again, what the scientists say down here about it is there is usually a type of person that this happens to…

Reverend Kelly 5:00

Whoa, what do you mean by that? They’re saying that it’s a type of person?

Honey Smith Walls 5:05

Well, they say that it’s a person who usually uses high THC products with high regularity and that they are totally fire hosing their ECS… their endocannabinoid system of receptors.

And I don’t know if you’re aware of this. Of course you are. But let me just say it for my audience… When you Firehose your receptor system, that’s a lock and key for cannabis. When you fire hose it, your receptors recede back into your tissue. It’s like they’re hiding from this fire hose action going on in your system because they just can’t take it anymore.

So the person or the people who are showing up with hyperemesis syndrome, some people like to call that being addicted too… this is the problem with cannabis. You get addicted to it, and then that happens.

But there is an addiction to a habitual habit. You know, there is an addiction to habits such as hand to mouth, like all smokers get. So with the onset of the high THC vape pens and the hand to mouth action and the “I don’t know that much about cannabis… So I don’t know I’m fire hosing my receptors that are trying to hide…” but now I’ve really overdone it and then there may be those people who are just seriously allergic to cannabis but they turn themselves into this incredible allergic reaction and response and  from what it looks like so far… It looks like they cannot go back to cannabis either.

Reverend Kelly 7:09

Oh, Honey, Honey, Honey, Honey, Honey, Honey! I have so much to say about what you just said. Whoo. First of all, it happened to me. It happened to me. So that’s where I’ll start with you here.

I’ll start with a little bit of preface by explaining that cannabis is my medicine. Cannabis is my medicine the same way that when people go to the doctor and they take medication for disorders, which I have four of, they ask the doctors with the white coats for their pills, and they take those pills and then they are on medicine but when they say they run out of their pills or or you know they’re on vacation. They can’t get them. They’re off their meds and we’ve heard that term many many times ‘off the meds’.

Well when someone like myself uses cannabis as medicine and I’m no longer able to use it. Then I’m off my meds and I had literally for three weeks through the month of June. So we’re talking like just last month or two months ago, I was literally off my meds for my disorders for three weeks because I was so so sick from cannabis.

Now I’m a cannabis educator. I’ve developed courses… I speak about it… I teach all the time… I have a brand that is a channel… and I’ve been educating for many years on cannabis lounge events and everything.

I’m an educator, I am somebody that is a media personality. I am a news Pro come to cannabis. I am a cannabis coach. I’m a cannabis consultant. So I’m only saying that in the sense of I’m a cannabis expert.

So it’s something that when I’m talking about cannabis, I’m understanding it from every single aspect right? Spirituality, mind, body and spirit. So I’m understanding what is happening and not even believing that it’s happening to me. How can it possibly be happening to me? Sure, I understand the cannabinoids that I need the time of day I need to take it… I know when I need an edible… I know when I need CBD. I know when I need topical… I knew when I need my tincture. I know my medication. So when it comes to what happened, it’s unbelievable.

But it can happen to anyone and everything that you’re saying Honey, I think that there is validity in all of that fire hosing. I’d never heard of it before. But I coached people out of ‘greening out’. I’ve gone to people’s homes when their children have gone into their edibles or that their animals have got into their edibles. I get calls in the middle of the night… I do video calls with people that have greened out… and so I use greening out and overconsumption terms to connect with spirits sometimes for trauma work.

So I understand when I am greening out and I’ve done it on purpose, but not this way. And I would never ever want anybody to go through what I went through. It was a combination of shock, vertigo and the worst panic attack and I have a panic condition. It’s so bad that I have a mask exemption letter. I didn’t wear a mask through the whole pandemic because the moment something gets to my face, I panic.

So I’m having the worst panic attacks at the same time as vertigo and shock where I can’t even move my lips. They’re frozen. When I’m consuming cannabis this was happening every single time. And so I couldn’t even try a little edible. I would try a little puff and all of my consultants, my coaches, my educators, the experts that I know we’re saying you need a tolerance break Kelly, you’ve over consumed someone had a theory of too much pesticides in the legal cannabis. Someone who only needs to have organic… someone said… you need to….

So I tried all of the different methods but what my system really needed was a reset. If I was using maybe 300 milligrams of edibles to sleep at night. I’m now at 25 or 50mg. My tolerance at one point in time I would be able to do a dab that somebody like Snoop Dogg would do and I would be like oh yeah, let’s go paint the fence or something like it…  my tolerance was ridiculous.

So there was a lot of validity in what you’re saying because I was using cannabis as my medicine but not really recognizing that my system needed a break from it and not realizing that I needed to.

Maybe because my body is in such a state of homeostasis it is in the fact that I haven’t been sick in three years. I’m not masked and not vaccinated and the outreach worker with churches and helping people of the vulnerable population all throughout the pandemic. I haven’t been sick in three or four years Honey, not even like a common cold.

So I believe that my body is in complete state of homeostasis. And when I’m consuming cannabis, the cannabis isn’t going in the right places that it needed to go. So everything that you’re saying has validity. People do need to take tolerance breaks…they do need to recognize what they’re putting in their body as far as the different percentages of different cannabinoids and really see how it’s affecting them because anybody can get sick from it. Anybody.  You cannot die from cannabis… there has never been an overdose from cannabis. But you can get very sick from it.

Honey Smith Walls 12:40

And it can be damned unpleasant.

Reverend Kelly 12:43

I feel so thankful and so grateful that I can now consume my medicine again but it is not even close to the amount that I was using prior to this.

Honey Smith Walls 12:54

Wow, what a great story and thank you so much for sharing it with us. It’s really important for people to understand that using cannabis wisely and cautiously, especially if you’re new to it… that all of these things in the place where Reverend Kelly came to with it… took a long time. That didn’t just happen to you overnight and from using for a few months… that happened to you after years of use right?

Reverend Kelly 13:28

Absolutely. I just was consuming from the morning until the night and different methods… do I need to focus right now? I’m gonna get some CBD. I’m gonna get whatever it is that I needed. I also microdose psilocybin mushrooms so that was added into it for balance of homeostasis as well.

Honey Smith Walls 13:49

I wanna do mushrooms so bad and I don’t know enough about them and I have to research and there’s no damn time.

Reverend Kelly 13:56

It’s wonderful, I’ll send you some information.

Honey Smith Walls 14:02

I just want trusted information and I don’t know where to turn so thank you.

Reverend Kelly 14:06

There’s wonderful documentaries that are being made and shared about it right now. Because people are recognizing that we need different models of healing. We need different models of therapy of the earth… we need to get away from things that have been touched by man that had been back stirred into different things.

I work with a colleague and my best friend is called the Canon… that is his brand, the Canon which shone black… and he always says the more that it has been touched by man, the worse it is. If it’s just not the role, then that’s what our bodies need. That’s what our souls need. And unfortunately, society today wants that white sugar and they want that steak and they want those white pills from the doctor because that’s what they’ve been brainwashed to believe. But we have to tell them hey, now you have other options that are going to make you live healthier, longer, and more fulfilled.

Mazo Promo:

Honey Smith Walls

Hey my friends, I want to give you a tip about a neurologist I know and trust. Dr. Anthony Mazo is a highly rated specialist here in Melbourne, Florida.

As one of the first physicians to research and study cannabis since 2016 when it was legalized in Florida… Dr Mazo is not quick to prescribe traditional synthetic chemicals when he knows that this gentle live plant therapy will likely give needed relief.

I know this to be true because I had to see him for my own old lady neuropathy issues. He did not prescribe the usual stuff. He told me to go get a particular kind of cannabis instead and use it in a very specific way to find relief. And that is what every doctor in America should have in their little black bag.

His clinic details will be in my show notes for you. Why? Because he’s a trusted cannabis expert in the field of neurology right here in Melbourne. Dr. Anthony Mazo… at the Brevard Neuro Center on Nasa Boulevard. See his details in my show notes.

Outro Bumper:

We’ll be back for the final episode of our Canadian sister in cannabis spirit next week… so stay tuned for more worldly information about how people are using this amazing plant therapy.


Honey Smith Walls

You’ve been listening to another Cannaba Verum podcast with 21st century cannabis shaman Honey Smith Walls, about the importance of using verifiably safe products.

The process of getting a diagnosis from your family doctor and taking your records to a cannabis specialist can lead you to the correct cannabinoid therapy for those issues.

Otherwise, you’re just your own guinea pig looking for answers without any foundational knowledge or ability to determine the best choices or strategies…

To find a qualified cannabis expert to help in your area, visit It is a national society of cannabis experts and you’ll see that link down in my show notes.

Unless otherwise proven by a reputable third party lab test, please regard all street weed as contaminated. It may do grave harm to a patient with a delicate immune system who already has inflammatory issues like arthritis, IBS, Fibromyalgia or worse.

Thanks so much for listening today. I hope you found value and understanding through my podcast. I have many more thoughts upon the subject that go in a more spiritual direction. So in that vein, please join my brand new live stage on Clubhouse every Sunday at 8am Eastern… look for Cannabis Church with Cannaba Verum.

It’s the spiritual version of my weekly podcast which usually covers all things in the cannabis industry… But we’re live on Clubhouse so you can ask questions and inspire others with your own stories or just be a fly on the wall.

Get there for live conversation with learned friends. And if you miss, you can catch replays at a convenient time.

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Show Notes:

We continue the conversation with Reverend Kelly Addison from Ontario who gives us a huge story on overusing THC and what happens… This is really interesting. Also putting a buncha links of people and businesses she mentions so you can peruse them at your leisure.

Stacy Bobek, RDH – CannaDent –                            

The Smelliest Flower in the Garden        

Healer Discount Link:                                                   

Dr. Anthony Mazo, Brevard Neuro Center, 315 East Nasa Blvd., Melbourne, FL 32901. (321) 733-2711

Cannabis Church on Clubhouse – Sundays @ 8am Eastern

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