This is Honey Smith Walls, a 21st century cannabis showman, and host of two weekly podcast productions. Canada verum, which means cannabis truth in Latin, as well as moment of clarity, which dives a little deeper into a subject. You’ll learn how to use the cannabis plant effectively. Find your proper dose, tame THC if you need to mitigate damage from street weed, avoid contamination and save your cash. If you’re exhausted from body aches, dangerous potential drug interactions, and crippling brain fog, then stay tuned for some amazing information you can always verify with proof by scientific data. guests from within the cannabis industry will enlighten and expand your ideas about the validity of this plant for our society. Thank you for joining me. Let’s get to it.

Unknown 1:17 

Hello, my friends. This week I’m proud to introduce the founder and visionary of Rockwell School of holistic medicine. This program prioritizes evidence based natural medicine, anecdotal theory and the people’s medicine, traditional nature empathy, clinical herbalism advanced holistic nutrition, the Rockwell try doctorate and spiritual medicine. Once you please help me welcome our guest to Canada verum. Eva Rockwell. 

Unknown 1:51

Hi, honey, hi, Eva.

Unknown 1:53

Gosh, it’s so wonderful to talk to you. I got up at six o’clock this morning And the next thing I know it’s two o’clock. It just goes so quickly.

Unknown 2:04 

I always make jokes that I’m like this villain. And you know, this, this movie with this plot where, you know, I’m greedy about time and I make jokes about you know, being able to buy time off aboard children and still their daydreams. Imagine that.

Unknown 2:19 

You know,

Unknown 2:21 

I’m like, okay, you’re bored. Let me buy that extra time off of you. And it’ll just disappear. And I can done I want to get done.

Unknown 2:29

That is a pretty cool concept.

Unknown 2:34

Because I really think that sometimes, you know, like, wouldn’t that be funny if it were just a movie? That’s a good night?

Unknown 2:40

Absolutely.

Unknown 2:42

Yeah. Because there are consequences, right? Because you imagine how dark that could be? Because, you know, people take it for granted that type of time and childhood where kids can be bored and just drift off and have an easy way, you know, but it’s not anymore.

Unknown 2:56

No, it isn’t. And the first thing that I thought of was Hansel and Gretel when you were describing that scenario, so yeah, I would strike for the kids. You know, precious time.

Unknown 3:09

Yeah, like some Sleeping Beauty. MLF is saying, you know, endless time. thinking, you know, none of us know how long we have, you know? That’s right.

Unknown 3:23

Yeah, none of us know. So best to make use. Obama best make use of the time.

Unknown 3:32

Because I live, to be honest, like, Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye, teetered between total like alignment and total fear. And I’m trying to move into that where I’ve built my muscle for alignment, and I’m better at it. And I’m easy to recognize when I’m not in it. So I have less suffering and less fear, fear blockages and resistance. You know what I mean? So

Unknown 3:55

how did you do that at such a young age? Because I’m 67. And just now, understanding what mindfulness really means. Yeah, how did you find that so young

Unknown 4:11

So I think what it is, it’s like every generation just has a little bit more of an edge, you know, and it kind of like first world countries have, obviously a much greater advantage and privilege than say, second, third world countries, you know. So like, in India, they’re still really heavy drinking Coke, right? Because it’s so marketed there. And they’re still in the market of the 80s. Almost from us, not quite but kind of the Indies. And here, we’re back in the modern we’re like now sparkling waters on the market, you barely see coke as much. So it’s kind of like that demographic. So the older generation, just for lack of a better terminology that I don’t have. You know, I feel like they think about your parents, they were even less conscious than you and their parents. Parents were less conscience conscious. And now here we are, and my daughter’s probably going to be more conscious than me or most of her generation. That’s what I think it is. But I do feel lucky that I’ve got to know this stuff. And I admire that you have it because I know people your age that kind of give up or they just have always been indifferent. I appreciate that. you’re open to that.

Unknown 5:44

And then that legislator that Chuck just got arrested yesterday for being black. She’s standing there. And they just came up and arrested her. She wouldn’t even. It is. It was Yeah, It’s horrifying. And so, boy, we’ve got a lot of work to do. Eva, you’re, you’re, I am. You’re too. But until until you found me. I really wasn’t looking at your holistic industry. You know, I’m just as a quota, just baby just one foot in front of the other, trying to get my little message out. But what you inspired me to realize, dear heart, is that I’ve just got this ebook I’m just about to bust out into the open, you know, just about to publish. But what you made me realize is that I need a little mini video course, on what’s in that ebook for a team of medical professionals like yours, and healthcare professionals like yours, to get them up to speed on cannabis to help their patients immediately to help their patients understand cannabis and how it can be effective for for their patients.

Unknown 7:16

So you’re writing an ebook or something? You I?

Unknown 7:19

Yeah, I’ve got my ebook already written. It’s been through the scientists, it’s got to go through the public. It’s at the publishers right now. But I, I’m, I’m going to publish, I wrote my first video module last night, after I talked to you. Today, I just thought no, that was two days ago, after I talked to you. I got off the phone and you inspired me. So I read the first video module, I want to, I’m going to upload it on YouTube, and all the other modules that will go with it. So that I want to offer it to your team. I want to offer not only my book, but my new video companion mini course, to go along with it for free. And I would like to have your reviews from it. Because what I can teach your team is how to help their patients find a cannabis therapy that is perfect for them. Because every single individual has a different cannabis therapy dosage. Okay, that’s beautiful. So

Unknown 8:45

here’s the thing, our program with cannabis. I have to re review it and like every year or two, we we go through an update programs. And it’s like, you know, I was I just so love the idea of like, Okay, this is how it is, it’s never gonna change, you can rest assured, but then you got like 20 years, and you’re missing 40 new therapies. So we always are going through and updating it. And it’s like you think it’s like a blast? I mean, it’s not super great, but at least everyone’s updated. And on the same page, you know what I mean?

Unknown 9:11Yes. Unknown 9:13

And for people that have already finished the program, we consider it continuing education credits, or Yeah, us or something. And you can use those whenever you’re getting your holistic certification from various providers. But as far as our cannabis program goes, so we we use the cannabis Health Index, I don’t. It’s more encyclopedic. And I can’t remember if it’s required or not, but we might have another book on cannabis too. But I would love to have a really more heart centered one on one approach. So maybe we can talk about incorporating your program into ours and selling it also separately. People just want to learn about it and we can do a platform that we use lets me split the profits with you. So it does drop salutely

Unknown 9:57

Absolutely. Because my whole and I talk about this on my podcast, I’m an individual 67 year old woman married with a, you know, elderly husband who’s ADA. And yeah, God holds on to big, fat cats. Well, I got into this industry to build a retirement for myself, because Copa goddess, you know, so I found podcasting, and I’ve got big whopping education in cannabis, and I can’t get in front of a live audience anymore. So podcasting became my audience. And then I realized, Oh, geez, you know, how am I going to get people to my podcast? Well, I gotta sell something, okay, I’ll write a book. I don’t want to I don’t want to cut down a tree those so it’s going to be an E book, until I can find the right company to Unknown 11:01 paper I wrote, right?Unknown 11:02Right.

Unknown 11:03

It’s a real tough dilemma that a lot of people don’t understand, like, how serious you are about that cutting down a tree. And sometimes that, you know, I really have to compromise. And that’s what I did with my books. And when I hadn’t published them, because all the research that I did, it was almost It was really, really, so cost prohibitive, you know?Unknown 11:19Yes,

Unknown 11:20yes. So you can do you know,

Unknown 11:22

and, and I’m just not willing to cut down trees. You know, people absolutely have to come to their own decisions about that and got their

Unknown 11:34level of the road there Unknown 11:35

Guess what else it is for me, honey, it’s not just I, you know, I’m not a saint. It’s cheaper for me to do an E book. And for all of those people who totally agree and a lot, right, want to follow in my footsteps and help people learn about cannabis. I do it on the fly on the cheap. Because I you know, COVID goddess, it, it hurts us. Yeah, and I just don’t have extra pennies and money. I do anchor because it’s a good platform, but

Unknown 12:07 you can because it’s so easy. Like

Unknown 12:11 they just bought out. They just bought out Spotify. So, yeah, you’re really doing lots of Unknown 12:21 cleanup Spotify, cuz that was kind of company kind of pissed me off sometimes.Unknown 12:24

Yeah. And they will. So you know, there’s a lot of there’s a lot of free platforms that we can use as we’re building our foundations, but that doesn’t change how good the information is. and automation is quality, excellent sign science.

Unknown 12:46

stuff, and we’ll just we’ll keep we’ll keep that on our radar. I’ll try to do less to focus on we are, I am so swamped, you know, by any point that would be or like, you know, like, like, as soon as we can get someone on it and are on our TV. Like, I really need to have more people. But anyway, yeah, you’ve

Unknown 13:06got a big thing. Did I see like 16 people?

Unknown 13:09active I only have one main assistant and social media person and the payroll personUnknown 13:14over here thatUnknown 13:16

basics, you know, and I really need honestly about five more systems, because there’s so many projects I’m doing anyway, have you heard of human design? No. Okay, well, you might have to do a follow up interview, or we might just do like regular interviews. We’ll see. Okay,Unknown 13:30yeah. Unknown 13:32

So look at human design and see what your profile is. And where you want to get is what your profile is. And then get your numbers, it’ll tell you your 244615 if you have that information is really all you need, you know, to kind of find out about yourself, but there’s certain types of people and there’s some people that initiate a lot of things at once. And in other ways, kind of crunched for time because they’re doing so much and they need a lot of help. But um,

Unknown 13:58yes. Unknown 14:00

Yeah. So anyway, it’s cool stuff. So look it up and you’ll be really fascinated by it. It’ll get you know, maybe you’ll have some people on that talk about human design cannabis me because it’s kind of like the new astrology. It’s like the newest at the new but if you don’t know about it, you’re not cool. Unknown 14:15

Eva, I found something that just blew my mind away. While we were messing around with COVID. Somebody introduced me to I just had to get up and come into a hollow room with no carpeting into medicine cards for animal spirits. And it’s just a very, very interesting insight into the shamanistic spiritual world of what animals and their strengths From and we bring to us and what we can learn from them and how we how our own natures kind of intertwine with with their animal. Right. And it was a marvelous eye opening kind of. Wow, this is very, very interesting. Yeah. So

Unknown 15:21 it’s so funny because I was really visualizing this truth card. And you know, the string card. I don’t know. That’s what I was gonna ask you next was, was this your first experience with Oracle? And? Yeah,

Unknown 15:35 yes.

Unknown 15:36 So you’re just gonna guess not really familiar with the Walter Waite writer deck? Unknown 15:41No.Unknown 15:42

Okay, so the Walter wait writer deck is kind of just it’s a classic tarot deck, and of course, there’s a million and hundreds of alternate decks, okay, in Oracle decks, you know, the difference between an Oracle and intro?

Unknown 15:52 No.

Unknown 15:53 Okay, so an Oracle card is not a true and that Oracle’s can be like you said, it’s an animal deck, or it might be goddesses or priestesses, and then you’ll draw a card, and then that’s where your element is at that moment for what you need to seek or be aware of. Oh, so the Oracle. But the Tarot is different in that it’s like, specific, it’s more specific and more traditional, like, if you go to a Catholic Church, anywhere in the world, in the world, to a Catholic mass. It’s the same mass in every Cathedral, because Catholicism is standardized. That’s part of their variety and communion, that you’re you’re welcome anywhere. Whereas if you go to a different Protestant Church of God or Pentecost, they’re totally differentUnknown 16:34Okay,

Unknown 16:34 so what I’m saying about Pharaoh, anyone who knows, throw, they all know the same interpretations. And the same, like, Oh,

Unknown 16:42 I’m the same way about these animals, spirit cards, they’re fun for when my friends come over, and we play a little music together. And stuff like that. But I don’t take it seriously. However, Unknown 16:58 there are things that reallyUnknown 16:59

rings true. Every single time something really smacks me up.Unknown 17:06And I love that’s a good Unknown 17:09

time to play with the hidden realm of the universe, but the good energies, and to just be like, hey, what would you What do I need to know now? And you just draw a card? You know? Unknown 17:20 Right? I’ve even drawn another card two or three times after that, and tried to get the same, you know, meaningful sub sub. No, that wasn’t it.

Unknown 17:31Yeah, it was a cardUnknown 17:32

that I pulled originally. And that was what was meant for me. Exactly. And I find the magic in the in right there in that spot. That card was what was meant, like

Unknown 17:45 not overdoing it too much.

Unknown 17:47 Now, okay. Now, you can’t take this stuff seriously.

Unknown 17:51 Like, are you be like, I know, like this card? No. And I’ll do it again, get the same card thing. I’m like, whatever we’re done by back in the door.

Unknown 18:03

So Eva, tell me how you started this school. And tell me about the team that you have assembled with. You said it’s small. But I think assembling a team of that many people is a magnificent start, oh, really, I’m so impressed with the power and control that you have exerted over this idea. And brought it to fruition. And, you know, this is, this is women’s month, month, and I am serious about uplifting women who are making a change in this world. And you’re one of those people, you’re a leader, and I appreciate you for that so much. We need we need great leadership in women power, but in in corporate and education and everything. Well,

Unknown 18:59

thank you. I mean, to be honest, I don’t really think of myself like that at all. But thank you so much. So I started the school. You know, I 20 years ago, yes, 25 years ago, I think when I was wanting to go to school, I wanted to major in ot med IU and my counters like I tell him I’m like, I want to create an independent major. And he’s like, Well, good luck. He’s like, there’s nobody around here that knows anything about that. So you’re going to be on your own. It’s gonna be really hard. So I just chose communication and culture. Oh,Unknown 19:31

that was encouraging.

Unknown 19:32

I know. Right. And I wish I had had a better support system. You know, cuz I think I would have just been like, Hey, I’ll do it you know, cuz that’s how I kind of parent it with my daughter like, Hey, I don’t care if you’re dyslexic or mathematically challenged. You know you still she’s she’s not dyslexic. But in fact, she’s like, you know, totally the opposite with, she’s excels in grammar and literature, but she doesn’t do really well in math. She’s what’s called dyscalculia ik or dyscalculia. She has that where you don’t really make a great sense of numbers but i always told her like hey you want to be

Unknown 20:03

what yeah stop hold everything what what what what did you just say

Unknown 20:10

well my daughter so so basically um we had her tested for learning disabilities yeah and she has a dd but she also has dyscalculia which is not really a term that’s really used it’s only used i think i’ve neverUnknown 20:27heard it before internally Unknown 20:30

or psychiatrists actually i think it just means like whenever you don’t really make really good sense with numbers they’re not really your friend Unknown 20:38 that’s me i get i get cold sweats when i have to think about numbers and doing any kind of math i’m that’s why i’m so gobsmacked by what you’re saying i’ve never heard a term term for it yeah and and i’ve been this way since i was a kidUnknown 20:54 yeah yeah so i was like that whenever i was younger too but when i started when it came to shopping i learned how to do my percentages off so i was able to just do really basic math really quickly in my head especially after having a few businesses like i can calculate numbers like and the threes and twos like times each other pretty quickly but at the same time it took me years to get there because i mean i’ve had three teachers and advanced math teachers like slammed doors on me i wanted to take the class for those college requirements but they’re just like you’re kidding me you just literally get mad they’re just instinctively would even ask them how dare you you know so anyway that’s what she had and for her i’m just like hey honey because she wanted to do psychiatry for a while and you know but that’s med school and yeah you know i’m like no matter why you know i’m just like i just stand right by her like whatever you need like we will make it happen if this is what you want if this is not what you want you know what i mean all about supporting not only Unknown 21:55 an amazing leader in industry but an amazing mother as well very impressive girly girl Unknown 22:02very impressive but by that i mean kind of like you know my parents didn’t have really a clue about college or how to help me with anything i was totally on my own so if i had a support system i might have been able to carve out that independent major and all that but so i could and i studied communication and culture and then went on to around that same timeUnknown 22:22thing called did you enjoy thatUnknown 22:24 not super no no i didn’t and that’s probably part of the problem then i went on to study with clayton college of natural health but they closed and i didn’t but i still learned a lot but i didn’t really like feel like it was completed you know so there were other schools i think at the time but i was just my life was just moving too fast and i just didn’t go to it for a while and then i had my daughter but at the time i mean even though i wasn’t studying natural medicine i had a home birth breastfed coast latched on to parenthood people come up to me in the story go oh my gosh how do you get your daughter to eat spinach and olives and blueberries

Unknown 23:07 she’s eating this stuff you know what i mean yeah right

Unknown 23:10 so they’re like my kid will eat and i’m like okay and i actually had my nephew came over for like a fourth of july party and he had he was eating these raspberries i had bought a blueberry and he was like these are incredible where do you get these i’ve never had before where do they even grow and you get them from what country or he thought they were almost just like plant over hamburger i don’t think they’re berries they just grow in burgers you’re kidding yeah but so i actually have my daughter and she was getting a little bit older like puberty years she was just struggling with transitioning into that you know and she always to be honest you know a unique child and she had these phobias about getting older she would talk about dreading her birthday coming up which is very weirdUnknown 24:04Isn’t that interesting! yeah Unknown 24:09 fact i finally i have tried to control everything my whole life and that has been my biggest downfall and i was trying to control the birth that night i needed a nap i was exhausted i was going on 30 hours no sleep nesting and i went into labor and then i had a 30 hour labor so i was delirious oh my gosh i can’t even like walk a couple miles and i was dilated to 10 at 10pm and i’m like oh no she’s like you can push when you want to like later i have to sleep for just like a couple of hours because i was like falling out you know but they’re like you’re ready to go and i’m like no no no not yeah

Unknown 24:49 right body birth right i was very surprised at what my body made me do during birthUnknown 24:57yeah birthUnknown 24:58wow yeah Wow,Unknown 25:00

yeah, so, but so as she got older and stuff, though, you know, she would have like anxiety and depression and we didn’t know that at the time that she was gluten sensitive, even like, it’s like, chemically you know that I don’t know if you know, but it causes a lot of brain inflammation and some people and it’s very exciting. I have a lot of minutes. I’ve justUnknown 25:19gone vegan. And I’m trying to get out of the gluten everything as well.Unknown 25:25 I can imagine that would be hard being a vegan a little bit.Unknown 25:28Oh, honey, it’s hard. Yeah,Unknown 25:30

cuz I was vegan for three and a half years.Unknown 25:31I don’t even know what to bring up. Yeah.Unknown 25:34Yeah. So anyway, I thought I thought I thought, you know, I really need to answers and maybe I want to practice, go back to my roots, you know, and, you know, do what I can then my whole life, because growing up, yeah, I was taking supplements about ginseng, and goldenseal, and black brew, and my dad was always fishing and I just knew like nature and all that. And I was looking for a school and the schools that were available at the time, were basically, you know, their programs were so dated, and they were very male, dominant. And when I say that, something specific, I mean that if I’m a student, and I say, Hey, you know what? This is outdated. Can you guys update it? No, our program, tell me that. Oh, my God. Yes. Done. Thank you tell me anything you see when I’m fixed. And if it makes sense, we’ll fix it. And if it doesn’t, we won’t, but I appreciate the feedback. Always. That’s how I run the school. And that has only improved us. And that’s what I mean by like, rigid, we’re very, like fluid. We’re always changing, always advancing and improving. And, you know, the goal, the mission of the school is to spread healing and like light to the, to everybody into every household. Because people deserve a right to know how to take care of their health. And even me, there’s a million things that I could be doing for all that. I know, there’s still really advanced stuff that I haven’t even touched the tip of the iceberg on, you know, like body scanners that can like give you medical tests, remotely. Blood tests, you know what I mean? Anyways, yeah

Unknown 27:07same with cannabis. There’s so much that Yeah, there are so many nuances in cannabis to discuss the miracleUnknown 27:16

plant. It’s justUnknown 27:19such a miracle plant. And that’s only medicinal. Like, I mean, we’re not even discussing the fact that how lovely they’re making airplanes out of cannabis now.Unknown 27:29Yeah, like there’s an industrial.Unknown 27:32

So there’s a there’s a lot to there’s a lot to learn, I’m sure. In all kinds of holistic medicines, like, like your arena that has 1000s of years of anecdotal testimony about all sorts of holistic ways to find relief. It’s the same with cannabis, and, and all of those holistic ways and you will find cannabis in the same pharmacopoeias from around the world that are 1000s of years old. They’re in the same category, because they’re, they’re all herbology right?Unknown 28:18Yes.Unknown 28:20So our you know, our industries are have been married for a long time.Unknown 28:28Yes, I completely agree. Yeah, yeah.

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Unknown 28:39Did you know that Whoopi Goldberg made a tampon with THC in it? Doesn’t that make sense?Unknown 28:50Um, you know, I could see CBD but THC when that gets your your would that get your you know, hiUnknown 28:59

Well, what it’s going to do, you know, CBD, yes, would take the inflammation down, but THC will take the pain out. And so there are ways to use THC.

Unknown 29:16I love it. I love it. But before we go on, to get to the root cause of menstrual cramps. That way, okay, if you need a THC tampon because you don’t want to follow the rules of fine take it because most of us can’t and won’t. But there’s a root cause and the root cause is inflammation. So, a lot of grains if you’re eating corn and pasta, you’re you’re going to accelerate your cramps rice, mac and cheese at night of your cramp.Unknown 29:46It’s going to Hello, Larry and Felipe. All in flow.

Unknown 29:50I’ve experimented with this extensively and I thought dairy was one of the issues but I’m wholly 100% after experiment running with this for years, that it’s Not but I will tell you if you want to eat that junk fine, but take a four day fast before your expected period, check it with a dot, check it with dot app. Like there’s no reason not to track your periods. Ladies, I wanted to get on a soapbox and lecture you but it really puts you in touch with yourself. And at some point, they’re exact. So you can go for days or even two days before your next period. grain free. You can eat dairy, you can eat me, I’m not kidding, because I’ve really experimented with this. You can eat kale soup, salad, broccoli soup, if you’re vegan, whatever. But if you don’t eat any grains, and it’s really just grains, and I would say sugar, you will have no cramps. No kidding. No kidding. I have experimented with this extensively. But before I knew that I was using Frankincense because I didn’t have access to cannabis. And then once I got access to cannabis, use cannabis. But once I changed my diet, I didn’t need either. But I don’t stay on that diet. I want to put that out there. And I’m just letting you know you can do whatever you want with the information. It doesn’t mean I always do it.

Unknown 30:58Well, you know what? I’m really glad you just claimed to be a human. Oh, there are you know, my grandmother used to say Do what I say.Unknown 31:15

I’ve never wanted to do that with my daughter. I always try not to do that. Bri I hated that.Unknown 31:22

Don’t kiss me on the lips, you’ll get old. So I get used to get so tickled with my grandmother. She’s such a tiny little woman but such a powerhouse of love. And I want you to know that I’ve been sitting here this whole time looking at your website and that incredible butterfly. That looks like it has an inch of old fashioned hand sewn love lace.

Unknown 31:51You believe that footage?Unknown 31:54That butterflies ago. Yeah, just to see it crawl around. And flutter it’s it’s been it’s so calming. And I really really have enjoyed it and I can’t wait for our audience to see it to say what your website is it’s a school ofUnknown 32:19holistic medicine.comUnknown 32:22

There you go School of holistic medicine.com. And there you’re going to be credibly impressed with the skill set of Miss Eva Rockwell, who is who has an advanced holistic nutrition, clinical herbal ism traditional nature of the natural nature Pathak nature off thatUnknown 32:49there was fine.Unknown 32:52

And also spiritual medicine and esoteric art. Can you would you explain what esoteric art is in, in companionship with your spiritual medicine?Unknown 33:06

So to me, you know, I, when I was in college, I really enjoyed my religious studies and my philosophy classes, even my government classes, I enjoyed those a lot. And, um, so I incorporated because I studied a lot of mysticism when I was in college, it was just required, you know, so I got like, a heavy dose really, really quickly, we said to Idaho, wasco. So I learned about that back when I was like, God, like my teen or something.

Unknown 33:35And Okay, um,Unknown 33:38 I wanted to incorporate that because I had, I have always been obsessed with religion and spirituality and calls, once I exhausted all the religions and I would go to the study of the cults and like learning and all that stuff, but one of my favorite religions is Zoroastrianism By the way, so it was ancient religion,Unknown 33:54Oh, my, to my, to my, but I haven’t had time to look into it. No, but it’s really one of my I’m really.Unknown 34:01So you know, the top of our list is about like, angels aesthetics, and like, wondering aesthetics and things like that, it’s like goes from A to Z and Zoroastrianism is at the end, because it’s all radical. And I just wanted to combine religion itself, because I feel that if there’s a good element about it, we can pull it out. We don’t have to take the whole religion. And some of the religions that we study are just out of curiosity, like, you know, it’s not like we’re teaching you to practice we’re just, we’re just showing you what’s going on, you know, if you’re interested and you want to clue if not, don’t touch it, you know, because it is a controversial program, you know what I mean? Yeah, so, the esoteric arts you know, that just kind of encompasses any kind of like medicinal spiritual like Edgar Casey type stuff solarize waters those colored waters that they sell in India, and you know, things that you’re like, how can this work? This has just died waters setting the senate means nothing, it’s not jack shit, but if fucking here

Unknown 35:02right so it’sUnknown 35:04medicine non medicine that people shine or only the people that are really in tune with that underground subculture know or want to know but they’re a straight up people that don’t believe in it and there are people that would prefer me to remove the program but of course i’m not going to because i feel those are the four pillars of wellness you know there is that spiritual aspect that karmic healing and karmic medicine

Unknown 35:26yeahUnknown 35:26yeah and i just perspective i think that’s the whole thing about our school trust me we have actually the anti vaxxers we have like you know people that are on the far right far left and but we all just have a respect this course where we agree to disagree and learn from each other whenever we can it’s again you’re just taking what you want you’re interpreting on your own with your own experience but we do have some like fact based stuff like this never changes and everyone should know thisUnknown 35:51yeah that’s how i feel about cannabis you know i just want to give the fundamental knowledge to our patient and to me everybody’s patient you know animal or humanUnknown 36:03yeah i think everybody honestly should take cbd and come from or another everyone unless like we discussed there’s a contraindication or some you know because some people can’t in my opinion depending on what you said that they can’t if you know the right stuff when i don’t doubt that but recreationally just using flour you know that’s a different story because that’s not as medicinal that’s more recreational and some people don’t react well with that so i mean that’s just proven so muchUnknown 36:27 wellUnknown 36:29

a few people like point 4% i still encourage everybody to try it honestly go aheadUnknown 36:34

there’s yeah there’s so much to learn and when we have figured out you know it’sprobably going to take a blood sample to understand what are need my

Unknown 36:51director of our rock wall trade doctrine says she’s really into genetics and you know she’s always talking about testing your genetics to find out how you can best utilize cannabis because some people best utilize it with flour and some people best utilize it internallyUnknown 37:05

boy there are so many ways to deliver cannabis into a topic and right

Unknown 37:13 now all that stuff

Unknown 37:14

hello tampons the way i thought about it i’mUnknown 37:17

a fan i love topical i love flower resins are you satisfied with the new nano technologies

Unknown 37:25that allow you to squirt a little something into some you know glass of water and guzzle it down that’s new to know but i would like would that be handy

Unknown 37:36because sometimes i’m just like this i’m just too high maintenance

Unknown 37:41and i don’t want to have three and if i’m thirsty it might be nice to have a lot of just a little whatever i need in my water or my drink or whatever like a little meo or somethingUnknown 37:53

i like that so people are like do you want to mix drink i’m like raw

Unknown 37:56but i do see people do the cbd vapes for anxiety and that’s something i would like to trybut i’m not convinced for some reason i feel like i did try it once and i feel like it didn’t work or maybe i’m just convinced myself that i don’t think it would work and it’s like a false memory but do you think it really does work though cbd vapes only vapes for cbd only worked for anxiety or is that like so

Unknown 38:18here’s the thing about vaporizers they get you there really fast and the product inside the cartridge is really concentratedUnknown 38:28soUnknown 38:29

but are you talking about the thc ones or the cbd ones orUnknown 38:32

both either oneUnknown 38:34well the thc ones i already know they’re they’re almost too concentrated exactly you know that’s like jimi hendrix guitar like it’s not my favorite i’d rather do a dab it’s like the acoustic version of the modern me

Unknown 38:45but that’s right there on the you know you can almost equate a dab with a with a vape of concentrate. yeahUnknown 38:54theres  so i do badly versus hard trump that the vape is like an electric show you know once an acoustic show once a live show and i like the acoustic show it’s much less harsh even if you’re using those electronic vaporizers where you just manually use them the dabs and you still have to hit electronic button those are those are still way strong but i still feel what they put in those skinny vaporizers for some reason i could have the same strain as any shatter for a dab or anything any any just delete whatever the same strain but if i do it in this little skinny vase it’s it’s too strong even as the tv will feel like a hybrid you

Unknown 39:32know okay so what you’re using is a concentrated product that that you don’t need all of that concentration you don’t need that high of a dose i believe so

Unknown 39:45let me just keep hitting it and hitting and hitting and then

Unknown 39:47we’re just add when you’re overusing it

Unknown 39:49we got a knockout overusing it right exactly and i just think that they’re too easy to overuse but i don’t know that there’s a way to dilute it without continuing you know Unknown 39:58well.. there well… there Is well…. what you want is a different product. Unknown 0:01 Um, you know, IUnknown 0:02 could see CBD but THC when that gets your, your would that get your, you know high. Unknown 0:10

Well, what it’s going to do, you know, CBD yes would take the inflammation down, but THC will take the pain out. And so there are ways to use THC.Unknown 0:27 I love it.

Unknown 0:28I love it. But before we go on, get to the root cause of menstrual cramps.

Unknown 0:35That way, okay,Unknown 0:36 if you need a THC tampon because you don’t want to follow the rules. Unknown 0:39 Fine,Unknown 0:40take it because most of us can’t and won’t, but there’s a root cause, and the root cause it’s inflammation. So a lot of grains if you’re eating corn and pasta, you’re, you’re going to accelerate your cramps rice. Mac and cheese that night of your cramp.Unknown 0:56Yeah,Unknown 0:57it’s gonna Hello Larry and we’dUnknown 1:00all in play, I’ve experimented with this extensively and I thought dairy was one of the issues, but I’m wholly 100% After experiment running with this for years, that it’s not but I will tell you if you want to eat that junk fine, but take a four day fast before you’re expected period track it with a dot, check it with dot app, like there’s no reason not to track your periods ladies I wanted to get on a soapbox and lecture you but it really puts you in touch with yourself at some point they’re exact so you can go for days or even two days before your next period, grain free, you can eat dairy you can eat me. I’m not kidding, because I’ve really experimented with this you can eat kale soup, salad broccoli soup if you’re vegan, whatever. But if you don’t eat any grains, and it’s really just grains and I would say sugar. You will have no cramps.Unknown 1:47No kidding. No kidding.Unknown 1:48

I have experimented with this extensively, but before I knew that I was using frankincense because I didn’t have access to cannabis and then once I got access to cannabis. I use cannabis but once I changed my diet, I didn’t need either, but I don’t say on that day I want to put that out there. And I’m just letting you know you can do whatever you want with information that doesn’t mean I always do it.

Unknown 2:09Well, you know what, I’m really glad you just claimed to be a human. Oh, there are you know, my grandmother used to say do what I say. Actually,

Unknown 2:26I never want to do that with my daughter, I always try not to do that.

Unknown 2:30Right. Don’t kiss me on the lips, you’ll get old, so I get I used to get so tickled with my grandmother, she was such a tiny little woman but such a powerhouse of love and I want you to know that I’ve been sitting here this whole time looking at your website and that incredible butterfly. That looks like it has an inch of old fashioned hand sewn lace.Unknown 302You believe that footage

Unknown 3:05that butterflies Aygo. Yeah, just to see it crawl around on that, and flutter, it’s, it’s been, it’s so calming. And I really, really have enjoyed it and I can’t wait for our audience to see it to say what your website is it’s a school of

Unknown 3:30school of holistic, medicine.com.Unknown 3:33

There you go, School of holistic medicine, dark, man. And there you’re going to be incredibly impressed with this skill set. Miss Eva Rockwell, who is, who has an advanced holistic nutrition, clinical herbalism traditional nature of the natural nature Pathak nature off ifUnknown 4:01there was fine.Unknown 4:03

And also spiritual medicine and esoteric art. Can you, would you explain what esoteric art is in. In, companionship with your spiritual medicine.Unknown 4:17

So, to me, you know, I, when I was in college, I really enjoyed my religious studies and my philosophy classes, even my government classes I enjoyed those a lot. And, um, so I incorporated, because I studied a lot of mysticism when I was in college, it was just required you know so I got like a heavy dose really really quickly, we started I Alaska so I learned about that back when I was like, God, like 19 or something.

Unknown 4:46And, okay, umUnknown 4:49I wanted to incorporate that because I had, I have always been obsessed with religion and spirituality and cults. Once I exhausted all the religions and I would go to the study of the cults and learning and all that stuff, but one of my favorite religions is Zoroastrianism, by the way, so it was ancient religion.

Unknown 5:05Oh, my to my to my, but I haven’t had time to look into it. No, but it’s really one of my I’m really. So,Unknown 5:13you know, the top of our list is about like angels aesthetics and like, wondering aesthetics and things like that, it’s like goes from A to Z and Zoroastrianism as at the end because it’s all political. And I just wanted to combine religion itself, because I feel that if there’s a good element about it we

Unknown 5:31can pull it out weUnknown 5:32don’t have to take the whole religion, and some of the religions that we study are just out of curiosity, like, you know, it’s not like we’re teaching you to practice we’re just, we’re just showing you what’s going on, you know, if you’re interested and you want a clue. If not, don’t touch it, you know, because it is a controversial program, you know what I mean. Yeah, so the esoteric arts, you know, that just kind of encompasses any kind of like medicinal spiritual like Edgar Casey type stuff solarize waters those colored waters that they sell in India, and you know things that you’re like, how can this work, this has just died waters setting the Senate means nothing it’s not jack shit. But if I can hear them, you know what I mean. Right, so it’s all about that medicine non medicine that people shun or only the people that are really in tune with that underground subculture know or want to know but there are straight up people that don’t believe in it and there are people that would prefer me to remove the program but of course I’m not going to because I feel those are the four pillars of wellness, you know there is that spiritual aspect that karmic healing and karmic medicine. Yeah, yeah, and I just perspective I think that’s the whole thing about our school trust me we have actually the anti vaxxers We have, like, you know, people that are on the far right far left, and but we all just have a respect this course where we agree to disagree and learn from each other whenever we can, it’s again you’re just taking what you want you’re interpreting on your own with your own experience, but we do have some like fact based stuff like this never changes and everyone should know this.Unknown 7:02

Yeah, that’s how I feel about cannabis. You know, I just want to give the fundamental knowledge to our patient. And to me, everybody’s patient, you know, animal or human.

Unknown 7:14Yeah, I think everybody honestly should take CBD and some form or another everyone unless like we discuss there’s a contraindication or some, you know, because some people can’t in my opinion, depending what you said that they can’t if you know the right stuff. I mean I don’t doubt that but recreationally, just using flour. You know that’s a different story because that’s not as medicinal that’s more recreational and some people don’t react well with that stuff. I mean that’s just proven so much.

Unknown 7:39Well,Unknown 7:40a few people like point 4% I still encourage everybody to try it honestly.Unknown 7:44Go ahead.Unknown 7:46There is, Yeah, there’s so much to learn, and when we have figured out, you know, it’s probably going to take a blood sample, to understand what Aaron needs.

Unknown 8:01MyUnknown 8:02

director of our Rockwell try DOCTORA says she’s really into genetics. And, you know, she’s always talking about testing your genetics to find out how you can best utilize cannabis because some people best utilize it with flour and some people best utilize it internally.Unknown 8:16Boy, there are so many ways to deliver cannabis into a topic right and right.Unknown 8:24Yeah, all that stuff.Unknown 8:25Hello Tampa,

Unknown 8:26the way I feel about it I’m a fan. I love topical I love flower resins

Unknown 8:34are the new nano technologies that allow you to squirt a little something into some, you know glass of water and guzzle it down, that’s new to now but I would like would that be handy,Unknown 8:47because sometimes I’m just like this, I’m just too high maintenance.Unknown 8:52And I don’t want to. And if I’m thirsty. It’s nice to have a lot of just a little, whatever I needed my water or my drink or whatever like a little Meo or somethingUnknown 9:04

like that. So people like you want a mixed drink I’m like raw, but I do see people do the CBD vapes for anxiety and that’s something I would like to try, but I’m not convinced, for some reason, I feel like I did try it once and I feel like it didn’t work or maybe I’m just convinced myself that I don’t think it would work and it’s like a false memory, but do you think it really does work though CBD vapes only vapes for CBD only work for anxiety, or is that like so.

Unknown 9:28Here’s the thing about vaporizers, they get you there really fast and the product inside the cartridge is really concentrated.

Unknown 9:40So,Unknown 9:40what are you talking about the THC ones or the CBD ones or both. Either one. Well the THC ones I already know they they’re, they’re almost too concentrated.Unknown 9:48Exactly.Unknown 9:49

You know that’s like Jimi Hendrix guitar like it’s not my favorite. I’d rather do a dab it’s like the acoustic version of the modern me, but,Unknown 9:57

but that’s right, they’re all, you know, you can almost equate a dab with a, with a vape of cons. There’s so Unknown 10:06I do badly versus hard Trump but the vape is like an electric show you know and one’s an acoustic show was a live show, and I like the acoustic show, it’s much less harsh, even if you’re using those electronic vaporizers where you just manually use them to dabs and you still have to hit electronic button. Those are, those are still way strong but I feel what they put in those skinny vaporizers, for some reason I can have the same strain as any shatter for a DAB or anything, any, any just delete whatever the same strain, but if I do it, and those little skinny vapes. It’s, it’s too strong, even it’s achievable feel like a hybrid, youUnknown 10:43

know, okay, so what you’re using is a concentrated product that, that you don’t need all of that concentration, you don’t need that high of a dose, I believe so.Unknown 10:56

And we just keep hitting it and hitting and hitting and thenUnknown 10:58

we’re just add when you’re overusing it, we got a knockout over using it. Right,

Unknown 11:03exactly. And I just think that they’re too easy to overuse but I don’t know that there’s a way to dilute it without continuing, you know,

Unknown 11:09will there will there is, Will, what you want. One that, okay, no I feel is lower in.Unknown 11:22

Yeah, and so I’ve never used them, I never used those for that reason.

Unknown 11:27Well, that’s good for you and as you can see by this example, everybody has a different level that they, you know, a different dose that they find a different sweet spot and brand, yours was obviously a lot lower than what a concentrate would give you. And so then you overused and it was ineffective. So what, what you could do is, is, or over effective is that down on your CBD, but let’s let’s find a proper product for you that you know isUnknown 12:10not. And that’s what you’re notUnknown 12:12

contaminated because it came with a third party lab test. So it doesn’t matter what brand you buy or whose company you buy of product unless it does not have a third party lab test, if it has not been third party lab tested, you can consider it contaminated just like all Street. Because, if, if that company does not care enough about your health, to check their product for contamination and by contamination. I mean, molds and mildews pesticides, herbicides, fungicides bat shift and heavy metals. And so if you do not use a product that has been tested for all of those contaminants, then your poor little delicate immune system is going to take a hit. And that’s what the autopsy said of the patients who were trying to find relief from their cancer treatments, who went out and use st weed to get a little, you know, relief from the nausea, and you know the agony of their cancer treatments, and they died from it, not from the cannabis never been a death from cannabis on the planet. But they died from the Aspergillus mold that was in that cannabis, and it lives there’s Long Island killed. And so if you have any kinds of sad little immune system from our IDs or, you know your fibro and you know exactly

Unknown 13:57immuno suppressant drugs yourUnknown 14:00high risk. Problems with contamination from,Unknown 14:05and how many people don’tUnknown 14:06know that age on it or not already on this drug have a clue.Unknown 14:12

You know what I mean. Yes, so many of those people in that age group are taking many medications including for one or two or moreUnknown 14:2120 Somethings andUnknown 14:2230s and 40s My mother took was about 30Unknown 14:25

They’re already on high blood pressure pills from stress and and diabetes and all ailments, IBS, you know, so they just don’t know what they think they’re impervious to, You know, yeah, I don’t even know what that contamination.Unknown 14:47

I would either normally to be honest with you, andUnknown 14:51

there’s this like new said I tried it once and it didn’t work. That’s very, very typical, but cannabis is not a try at once. Therapy. It is a hunt and peck system of therapy you hunt for the right product, and then you pick at it until you find your sweet spot, and that is your dosage. So you may have to be on that for two weeks before you figure out if it’s really doing the right job for you. With the right and Unknown 15:26this is important why and I would say for me, you know, this is what I would be urging people that are.

Host: Honey 26:57

You’ve been listening to another Cannaba Verum podcast with 21st century cannabis shaman Honey Smith Walls, about the importance of using safe hemp and marijuana products. Unless otherwise proven by a reputable third party lab test, please be advised that all street weed is contaminated. It may do grave harm to a patient with a delicate immune system. I challenge you to check the veracity of my statements in each episode by checking the medical citations posted on my blog at Cannaba Verum.com.

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1. plant specifically grows, the acid form, the THCa –  https://academic.oup.com/pcp/article/46/9/1578/1812749
2. all street weed is contaminated: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5022003/
3. Handbook of Cannabis for Clinicians, Practices and Principles by Dr. Dustin Sulak – https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Cannabis-Clinicians-Principles-Practice/dp/0393714187 and healer.com
4. Certificate of Analysis (COA) https://www.pharmtech.com/view/certificates-analysis-don-t-trust-verify