Hello my friends. Thank you for joining Amy Donohue, of Get Hybrid Social (.com) and the tips and tricks she shares with us. One of the things she said just blew me away. And it’s so true. There is no science in stigma. Let’s find out what she’s talking about right after the intro.

Intro:

Welcome to season three of the Cannaba Verum podcast, the cannabis truth podcast.

I speak the language of cannabis freely and uncensored while educating my audience on safe use of this live Plant Therapy.

You should know what’s in your cannabis… what’s good and what’s not. It does not come with an FDA stamp of approval yet.

Using cannabis mindfully as medication is a different concept in western healthcare philosophy, specifically the past 100 years. There’s a lot to learn and reconsider.

The information you’ll find here comes straight from scientists and clinicians doing the work and reporting their findings in real time through various live online outlets.

The scientific truth of cannabis is finally getting out and is wide open for all to see at respected medical sites like pubmed.gov and JAMA, the Journal of American Medical Association.

I’m right there in the thick of it with all those titans of medicine… as a fly on the wall. I’m not a doctor nor did I go to med school. But I did take dozens of private cannabis courses and still engage in continuing education offered by cannabis expert scientists over the past few years and slowly began to see and understand the bigger picture.

Now I talk to people all day long about cannabis and hopefully inspire them to research the facts as we know them today. Cannabis is an amazing alternative in health remedies.

It can reportedly alleviate typical disease problems and troubling side effects, even those caused by synthetic prescriptions.

This is Honey Smith Walls, a 21st century cannabis shaman, not a doctor, not a scientist. Raised by nuns and wolves in the verdant cattle pastures of the Oklahoma oil fields.

I’m here to amplify the truth of this great big story and language of cannabis in historical, political and scientific terms… so you can make educated decisions about the medicine you choose to ingest.

Amy Donohue – Social Media Maestro 2:07

The branding is supposed to be in this industry. You don’t have to put what you do in the name of your company.

Honey Smith Walls 3:51

Exactly.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 3:52

But people think because they’ve never owned a business before which brings me to… you need to hire someone to do your branding. And if you cannot do that on your own, I hired someone to do all of mine because I wanted to look professional. Do not use the word “canna” in your name anymore. It is redundant. There’s no reason for it. Something with a fancy word like what you did, that’s perfect. I love that because it’s also outside the box. Yes. Cuz I live outside the box.

Honey Smith Walls 4:29

Well, I was raised among nuns and wolves and so Latin is familiar to me and it was my next best choice.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 4:45

Well, I love it, I think is great. It’s creative. It’s different. And like you said, for banking, I just got my first bank account in six years. Good lord. Yeah, six years I didn’t have a bank account because my main client was a dispensary. That’s plant-touching. So I could have lost my bank account, or had my assets frozen while I proved that I wasn’t a drug dealer, but I’m a single girl. I can’t be without my bank account for a day… who’s gonna pay my bills. So I was pretty feral with everything and you know, I still get paid in cash from some clients because they can’t get bank accounts.

Honey Smith Walls 5:26

Oh, my. It’s just ridiculous. It’s just so corrupt and ridiculous.  Yes, yes, of course. That is strangling. It continues to strangle the industry. Yeah. You know, and that’s just corrupt. It’s corruption. There’s nothing… There’s no two ways about it. It’s purely corrupt. So we’ve got our work cut out for us, but I am proud that you are such a feral and fierce woman. No, I am because this is precisely the kind of leadership that we need in order to get past the bully-ment of man in corrupt industries. It’s true. We’ve all been bullied into this submission, you know, afraid to say anything afraid to do anything less we get bullied some more, you know the threat of violence. Well, we will start… we are… we have begun. Yep. There are a wonderful innumerable innumerable wonderful men in this world who are not violent, who are not corrupt who had the good of all in their hearts. And they must prevail, as well. So as we bring this industry up, and replace the corruption with balance,

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 7:10

I think you’ve just hit the nail on the head with that word balance.

Honey Smith Walls 7:15

It takes strong leadership like what you’re doing… how you’re standing in your truth. And it’s wonderful to see.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 7:26

That means so much to me because I’m all alone. Here. I’m all by myself just you know, workin my business and everything else and I sometimes feel like I’m speaking into the void.

Honey Smith Walls 7:36

I know that feeling. I’m here on the other side of the continent, you know, thinking some of those same thoughts. Well, I’m just here alone in my bubble. I’m almost 68 I’m just a woman. Hell yes. I’m just a woman.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 7:52

I was gonna say we shouldn’t be saying that. Right.

Honey Smith Walls 7:55

So like I said, I try not to say negative things about me. But you know, I’ve been programmed all my life to think negatively about myself. Yeah, so getting rid of that speak and the other thing is the rolling language of cannabis. You know, it just slips underneath us as we tarry along this path, because we’re not sure what to believe. You know, we’re not sure what to believe right in front of our own eyes. Hello January 6, much less what we’ve been told about cannabis. Hello, all of the 100 years of propaganda. But then here come these brave scientists telling us their new discoveries in the endocannabinoid system of receptors that everybody on the planet has.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 8:42

Everybody has an ECS, an Endocannabinoid System that needs to be supplemented because we’re no longer eating hemp through our meals, right? We’re not getting CBD from our cows anymore. But I’ve tried to explain this to so many people like your body was made for cannabis… period.

Honey Smith Walls 9:02

Well, it’s been here since the dawn of time, and I’m not sure if it has led us or if we have led it… agriculturally, but the story of the seed and the plant and the fish that become reptiles and eventually we became that roamed the earth is a long one. And yeah, you know the history of humans is but a snap of your finger on this planet. So the fact that we’re already looking for other planets to inhabit when this one goes…

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 9:42

when we go in this way…

Honey Smith Walls 9:43

right, right, right when Putin pushes the button. You know that says a lot . I just hope that our leadership and our our desire for balance is enough to tip the scale to the good, and that’s what we’re trying to do. Right.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 10:03

Okay, yeah, that is exactly what we’re trying to do because this industry, like I said, was the wild wild west we needed to be structured with leadership and knowledge and science because people your and my age are still stuck in that drug drug drug drug drug, as they no offense… tip their martini glass, which is a drug. But we were not raised on that. We were raised that alcohol is for 21 and over and then you can have a blast, right?

Honey Smith Walls 10:32

Oh, don’t forget the wire hanger. Yeah. Yeah. Don’t forget the wire hanger which incidentally, I am still carrying. When I go out in public… I carry a wire hanger to protest.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 10:52

I love it. They’re just so wrong. This is America. We cannot be going backwards.

Honey Smith Walls 10:56

But we are… this is America. We’re going backwards.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 10:59

I don’t want to get into that. It’s my day off and it’s only 11:00.

Honey Smith Walls 11:05

Oh gosh. Don’t want to do that. But no, take another hit. And, and let me tell you what you’re enjoying. Which was oh, you were giving us a beautiful description of the strain that you had chosen and why and how it affects you. And so what I chose to to use is I have no idea what the strain is. I never look at that and I rarely even look at the assay. I just feel when I walk into the dispensary and ask them for the cheapest lemonine for the morning and and then something different, and if it comes with a lot of CBN cannabinol and CBG cannabigerol those two things will help me sleep a little better. One will help me get to sleep the other will help me stay asleep a little bit longer. And of course CBD helps the spasms in your bladder. If you’re an old person. You know old farts have to get up 1000 times in the night because their bladder spasms and they gotta go pee. And so CBD calms that and helps you sleep through the night from all that up and down business. And then you don’t have to be so worried about falling in the middle of the night, which is the number one fear of elders because yeah, you know, a fall can change their life overnight. So there’s all that to consider. Cannabis is really a huge aid for elders and they got to get past the propaganda of the past 100 years. “I’m so afraid I’ll be woozy. I don’t want to  fall.”

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 13:05

There’s no science in stigma.

Honey Smith Walls 13:08

Yeah, that’s good, I love that. That’s so cool. So you know what we have to tell them is how you have to learn about it. You have to learn about cannabis so that you manage it, because CBD tames THC. So when you learn how to use that and how to manage it by micro dosing, then you’re your own Alchemist you’ve become, it’s a whole new life and a whole new path to getting relief for your aches and pains. It ain’t taking a pill twice a day says your doctor. Right? It’s knowledge. It’s the power of knowledge.

And so I’m using… I don’t usually like to use these. I’m using a cartridge, and I’ve had it for several weeks I have to say because I don’t use it often. But I feel the need to bring a higher concentration of THC into me right now… my hands are hurting greatly. And so that’s kind of an acute thing that’s happening right at this moment. So I really want to give myself some fast relief. So I’ve got a cartridge of very potent THC. And I’m just going to have a couple of puffs on it. And they’ll be little puffs like one to two seconds long drags off of this, you know, little cartridge that gets heated up and then I’m greatly relieved and that’s all there is to it. So here we go. I’ll just start with that one. Well, I’ll wait a few minutes because it’s like you know, it’s like 83% lalala whatever the hell… that’s why I don’t do cartridges often. Exactly. And so you shouldn’t do cartridges as a newbie at all. You know you shouldn’t at all. But I’m here to tell you that didn’t work very well because I didn’t see anything coming out. So here comes another puff. Oh, there it is.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 15:11

And last, a seven second “pull” will give you more of what’s in there and activates all the cannabinoids with the heat. So a quick pull might only get you CBN for example, but it really does take a little bit longer pull to get the full effect from what is in there.

Honey Smith Walls 15:37

Hey my friends, I want to give you a tip about a neurologist I know and trust. Dr. Anthony Mazo is a highly rated specialist here in Melbourne, Florida, one of the first physicians to research and study cannabis since 2016 when it was legalized in Florida. Dr Mazo is not quick to prescribe traditional synthetic chemicals when he knows that this gentle live plant therapy will likely give needed relief.

I know this to be true because I had to see him for my own old lady neuropathy issues. He did not prescribe the usual stuff. He told me to go get a particular kind of cannabis instead and use it in a very specific way to find relief. And that is what every doctor in America should have in their little black bag.

His clinic details will be in my show notes for you. Why? Because he’s a trusted cannabis expert in the field of neurology right here in Melbourne. Dr. Anthony Mazo at the Brevard Neuro Center on Nasa Boulevard. See his details in my show notes.

Honey Smith Walls:

Well, I’d like to see the research on that.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 16:58

I will look for it. I learned it from O Pen. It was one of our first vape vendors but they’re no longer here. Cartridge company and I was at a client’s dispensary when the rep came in. And they have to teach the bud tenders of course how to use the products. And that was what I learned just a very slow seven second pull. Because a quick pull might not feel the heating element enough. That’s why.

Honey Smith Walls 17:33

I’m a little reluctant to agree with this philosophy for one reason only… a seven second pull. A two second pull on a cart for me will fill my lungs and of course I’m pulling hard on it.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 17:52

That’s why I said a very light, long pull. But yeah, I will look for the an article on that because you want to be able to get as much out of the medicine as you can. And cartridges are not cheap. So you want to make sure you get as much medicine out of that as possible.

Honey Smith Walls 18:15

And you really want to microdose a cartridge. You really want to be careful. It’s an oxymoron to even say that it is because… how do you microdose a concentrate. But the point is you want to take as little as possible of this very, very, very concentrated product to start with so that you can titrate what you’re doing so that you will not overload your receptor system apps.

They are only so big people… you know, my friends they are only so big these little teeny weeny receptors in your body and if they’re already filled up, you just can’t take anymore, as my granddad would say. So the whole point being is that you’re trying to medicate? Yep. You’re not trying to blow your brain cells out. And of course you wouldn’t do that. That was just a figure of speech but you’re not trying to over medicate yourself. And you wouldn’t want to anyway. You don’t want to blow your tolerance with THC. And that’s fairly easily done after you’ve become a consistent user to THC.

I want to say specifically to THC. You can blow your tolerance with THC, if you’ve been using for quite a while and you’ve been overusing… especially when you chase a high and and if you’re chasing a high you’ve blown your tolerance.

Basically, if you have to use more and more cannabis to get higher or higher then you’ve already blown your tolerance. But that’s not that’s not something a newbie would do. But it’s something a newbie would try to look out for by not overusing… by titrating. Right? Micro dosing. Yeah, to find your micro dose and titrate to find your sweet spot. Once you find your sweet spot. Then you know what your dosage is. It’s that simple. But it’s a little elusive. I’m just pulling the curtain back behind the cannabis plant… finding your sweet spot can be a little elusive because there are so many different ways to deliver cannabis.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 20:53 And so many different products that are made in so many different ways that have so many different terpenes in them.

Honey Smith Walls 20:57

Yep. It’s a little elusive and you really do become your own Alchemist. And it’s fun. It’s fun. You have complete autonomy. And so you get to figure out what’s what and what you like and if it smells good and if it tastes good and if it makes you happy or if it doesn’t quite work or if you need a little more or maybe a little less because cannabis is biphasic… if you use just the right amount, it’ll do one thing… but if you use too much, it can do just exactly the opposite. And for so many people we’ve found that THC makes them anxious. Not all people, but a lot of people.

Amy Donohue, Social, Media Maestro 21:50

For me it’s limonene see

Honey Smith Walls

There, see there so you’ve even you’ve even figured it out down to the terpene.

Amy Donohue, Social aMedia Maestro

Yep. Because I know a lot of people do get the ill effects of too much THC but for me, it is always the limonene makes me get anxious. And so I I will try to buy strains. If they have that in there. Make sure it’s a hybrid. I can’t do jack Jack Harrer.

Honey Smith Walls 22:15

Let me say just there for our audience because limonene we talked about it earlier is one of those uplifting terpenes that you would use ordinarily, for focus and sharpness and energy in the morning and also that would also you know, ease your pain or give you relief in that painful area, whatever. But Amy is saying she’s already determined. And I find this fascinating and utterly thrilling that you have already determined it’s the terpene not the THC.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 22:47

Yeah. And making you antsy. When I was in high school I stopped smoking pot because it made me get anxious and panicky and then I learned that back in the 80s pretty much everything on the market in upstate New York was a sativa and so I’m sensitive to a lot of sativa is because of that. And I didn’t do cannabis for eight years, because I didn’t want to have that anxiety and panic attacks, which is what I grew up with and was trying to get rid of. So yeah, I learned that some sativa Jack Harrer is one. Anything from Jack just seems to affect me differently.

Honey Smith Walls 23:28

Okay, well, it seems to me more it’s because they’re using some terpene that is not agreeing with you than it is the fact that it’s a sativa or indica because that truly… and my audience knows this… just tells us what kind of plant it is… if it’s a long tall leafy plant, you know, or if it’s a short fat broad leaf plant,

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 23:53

And that doesn’t even happen anymore.

Honey Smith Walls 23:55

And so you know, the the way the industry is growing is utterly remarkable to watch it rollout like this in all this chaos and glory. Because you know, there’s small farmers growing pot, there’s great big farmers growing pot and there’s people growing outdoors and indoors and everything in between with rolling, you know, rolling ceilings that open up in the daytime, you know and close at night. Some of these vertical farms look like it’s on a Ferris wheel and comes around where people can just stand instead of bend over… hunched over to farm the actual plant and or work the actual place… amazing, amazing concepts in machinery and technology and all the things that these human you know, this is the special human magic… it truly is and to watch it kind of like a fly on the wall from the outside the bubble is just fascinating to see.

Oh my gosh, this language of cannabis it rolls underneath us and we all use some language that means some things and other language that means some things and has been incorporated in ways…. and the hippies have brought in a lot of language that means one thing when, in fact the scientists are finding other things. So it’s difficult to garner all of the meanings of the language into one word again, the Latin language is dead. That’s why I can say Cannaba Verum is cannabis truth and will always be now that this is all that will ever mean. Right? But our our English language is alive and changes. God love the language… it’s just amazing, but it’s difficult to understand meaning with a rolling language, isn’t it?

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 25:58

It really is… I’m kind of language nerd too. Yeah,  I love the evolution of language.

Honey Smith Walls 26:04

I do too… I can’t believe you say that… I do too. I really do. It’s just marvelous. So I feel like I’m in the middle of a Downton Abbey moment here. Am I?

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 26:13

I’ve never watched it.

Honey Smith Walls 26:14

Oh. Oh my god. Where’s my voodoo doll?

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 26:18

I can’t do British accents. I don’t know. It’s it’s a thing. I can’t understand them. I have to have subtitles on. And that just exhausts me after running a damn business all day. I can’t understand England English.

Honey Smith Walls 26:34

I get it. I do… I get it. I play music. I’ve got a band that’s supposed to take my mind away from everything else in the world. And then I found Downton Abby. But I was already a  Sound of Music geek. Yeah. So that truly was the thing that captured my Spirit. It helped me understand that there was still good humans in the world and that the nuns wouldn’t eat me. You know, maybe good priests too…. maybe there’s good priests in there. I can’t remember anymore. And that I had hope and that music helped. And it did and so music got me through a lot of my life. And cannabis got me through the rest of it, and gave me hope and clarity, and future. So it’s been wonderful and it didn’t matter if you don’t like Mountain Abbey or Downton Abbey… we’ll have the place that takes our minds and hearts away that helps us heal… whatever it is.

Well, Amy, it’s been so much fun chatting with you, darling. Thank you so much for helping us understand your part in this fabulous industry and gosh, the HELP YOU ARE! The people and the path that you lead for us… you’re so courageous.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 28:08

Oh my goodness. Thank you. I feel the same way about you and I’m very thankful that we did connect on Alignable or leaf wire.

Honey Smith Walls 28:16

I remember… I thought it was LinkedIn…

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 28:20

I’m everywhere. Like I said I am everywhere.

Honey Smith Walls 28:23

I thought you were already in my tribe on LinkedIn. And so it shall be forever. I’m just thrilled to meet you, honey. Thank you. And now, onward we march and I’ll be with you still. I want to know what happens to you. If you’ll tell our audience when you come back next time, sometime whenever you feel like it. Yes, anytime. That’d be wonderful. Thank you again dear heart, for sharing all of your thoughts with us today about this wonderful industry and how you’re helping everybody in it. We appreciate that, my dear, great service to all and we’ll see you next time.

Amy Donohue, Social Media Maestro 29:00

Yes, happy Taco Tuesday.

Honey Smith Walls 29:03

Thank you. I’m going to go make myself one right. All right,  enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you. Take care. Bye bye.

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Show Notes:

Social Media Expert Amy Donohue of GetHybridSocial.com gets specific about working in this industry and being a patient in this industry… two different skill sets. Find out how we personally use the plant and some of our tricks of the trade on today’s final episode with the Divine Miss Amy D. GetHybridSocial.com.             Find Amy Here: GetHybridSocial.com         For my affiliate discount to Healer CBD products: https://healercbd.com/products/?ref=116                           

For a wonderful MMJ specialist:         Dr. Anthony Mazo, M.D.

Brevard Neuro Center

(321) 733-2711

315 E. Nasa Blvd.

Melbourne, FL 32901.   

All opinions are my own and should not be mistaken as medical advice.