Welcome to season three of the Cannaba Verum podcast, the cannabis truth podcast. I speak the language of cannabis freely and uncensored while educating my audience on safe use of this slide Plant Therapy. You should know what’s in your cannabis. what’s good and what’s not. It does not come with an FDA stamp of approval yet. using cannabis mindfully as medication is a different concepts in western healthcare philosophy, specifically at the past 100 years. There’s a lot to learn and reconsider the information you’ll find here come straight from the scientists and clinicians doing the work and reporting their findings in real time through various live online outlets. The scientific truth of cannabis is finally getting out and is wide open for all to see at respected medical sites like pubmed.gov and JAMA, the Journal of American Medical Association and I’m right there in the thick of it with all those titans of medicine as a fly on the wall, because I’m not a doctor. I didn’t go to med school. I did take dozens of private cannabis courses offered by cannabis expert scientists online over the past few years and slowly began to understand the bigger picture. Well, I can talk to those medical professionals about cannabis all day long and their patients and hopefully inspire them to research the facts as we know them today. Cannabis is an amazing alternative and health remedies that can reportedly alleviate typical disease problems and troubling side effects caused by synthetic prescriptions. This is honey Smith walls, a 21st century cannabis shaman not a doctor, not a scientist, raised by nuns and wolves in the Verdun cattle pastures of the Oklahoma oil fields. I’m here to amplify the truth of this great big story and language of cannabis in historical, political and scientific terms. So you can make educated decisions about the medicine you choose to ingest.
Hello, my friends. I want to talk to you for a moment about my attitude around this delicate subject because I come from a 30 year relationship that smirks on anything spiritual as if it’s a bunch of hooey and before that I was practically an alcoholic nun trying to live the day to day routine of Saint Teresa the little flower as a divorced mother of a young boy in a small town in the heart of Kansas, filled with ancient ideas and illusions of perfection. But here’s the thing. We are sentient creatures. We have feelings that rise and fall. And those who tried to control us on mass, do play our emotions. Sometimes we can control our emotions most times not. Not unless you’ve trained your mind to frame events without emotion. And debate thinking about useless disinformation or false memories. And how the hell do you tell a false memory from a true memory? I suppose it can be done. I’m trying to practice those ideas anyway. But it ain’t easy. So with that in mind, the nature of this episode is rather spiritual. Cannabis was used in every major religion, humans dreamt up and in my humble opinion, is the best medicine for introspection. A person has I also wonder if it does that to a human. How do animals feel on it? Maybe they’ll tell us. Anyway, my guest today has the most interesting background in neuro psychology, as well as music and expressive arts. Therapy. Kay Tummino is a shaman in her own right. And I’ve just become her student. As I listened to her open my mind and heart. She has this calm. I’d like to know this journey we’re on together just keeps getting better and better. Please enjoy this deep conversation about the spirituality of humans. And how cannabis helps us find all kinds of new pads to consider with our new friend, Kay Tummino.
And just one more thing case starts the segment at a level of suffering that she’ll be able to explain to you. We were in the middle of a conversation from last week. So if you didn’t have an opportunity, you really want to go back and listen to the first part of this conversation. Stay tuned. Here she is.
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Honey Smith Walls 0:00
Welcome to season three of the Cannaba Verum podcast, the cannabis truth podcast. I speak the language of cannabis freely and uncensored while educating my audience on safe use of this slide Plant Therapy. You should know what’s in your cannabis. what’s good and what’s not. It does not come with an FDA stamp of approval yet. using cannabis mindfully as medication is a different concept in western healthcare philosophy, specifically at the past 100 years. There’s a lot to learn and reconsider. The information you’ll find here come straight from the scientists and clinicians doing the work and reporting their findings in real time through various live online outlets. The scientific truth of cannabis is finally getting out and is wide open for all to see at respected medical sites like pubmed.gov and JAMA, the Journal of American Medical Association and I’m right there in the thick of it with all those titans of medicine as a fly on the wall, because I’m not a doctor. I didn’t go to med school. I did take dozens of private cannabis courses offered by cannabis expert scientists online over the past few years and slowly began to understand the bigger picture. Well, I can talk to those medical professionals about cannabis all day long and their patients and hopefully inspire them to research the facts as we know them today. Cannabis is an amazing alternative and health remedies that can reportedly alleviate typical disease problems and troubling side effects caused by synthetic prescriptions. This is Honey Smith Walls, a 21st century cannabis shaman not a doctor, not a scientist, raised by nuns and wolves in the Verdun cattle pastures of the Oklahoma oil fields. I’m here to amplify the truth of this great big story and language of cannabis in historical, political and scientific terms. So you can make educated decisions about the medicine you choose to ingest.
Hello, my friends. I want to talk to you for a moment about my attitude around this delicate subject because I come from a 30-year relationship that smirks on anything spiritual as if it’s a bunch of hooey and before that I was practically an alcoholic nun trying to live the day-to-day routine of Saint Teresa the little flower as a divorced mother of a young boy in a small town in the heart of Kansas, filled with ancient ideas and illusions of perfection. But here’s the thing. We are sentient creatures. We have feelings that rise and fall. And those who tried to control us en mass, do play our emotions. Sometimes we can control our emotions most times not. Not unless you’ve trained your mind to frame events without emotion. And debate thinking about useless disinformation or false memories. And how the hell do you tell a false memory from a true memory? I suppose it can be done. I’m trying to practice those ideas anyway. But it ain’t easy. So with that in mind, the nature of this episode is rather spiritual. Cannabis was used in every major religion, humans dreamt up and in my humble opinion, is the best medicine for introspection. A person has. I also wonder if it does that to a human. How do animals feel on it? Maybe they’ll tell us. Anyway, my guest today has the most interesting background in neuropsychology, as well as music and expressive arts. therapy. Kay Tommino is a shaman in her own right. And I’ve just become her student. As I listened to her open my mind and heart. She has this calm. I’d like to know. This journey we’re on together just keeps getting better and better. Please enjoy this deep conversation about the spirituality of humans. And how cannabis helps us find all kinds of new paths to consider with our new friend, Kate Tommino. And just one more thing Kay starts the segment at a level of suffering that she’ll be able to explain to you. We were in the middle of a conversation from last week. So if you didn’t have an opportunity, you really want to go back and listen to the first part of this conversation. Stay tuned. Here she is.
Kay Tummino 5:27
Yes. In fact, I’m so glad you keep bringing up unconditional love because the big understanding point at first boundaries feel they can feel very difficult for people that was my experience. It’s my boundaries was very hard. So one great way to sort of continue to reinforce myself in making these boundaries is also to remember that boundaries are unconditional love.
Honey Smith Walls 5:55
Yeah.
Kay Tummino 5:56
You need to unconditionally love yourself before you do any other being
Honey Smith Walls 6:02
Have to.
Kay Tummino 6:03
Right. So if you’re making a boundary that is showing yourself unconditional love and that is also showing others unconditional love and that’s why unconditional love can look a lot of ways you might not expect unconditional love for a person may be saying you’re in a very unhealthy place right now. And I want very much for you to be helped. But I can’t be the one to help you because I need to take care of my health too. And I’m going to be praying for you are going to be wishing you well. I’m going to be your loving witness from afar whatever it may be, but that is how you show up with unconditional love. Unconditional love a lot of times when people talk to me about a very close, loved one that they have in their life that they’re currently separated from in some some way, shape or form. A lot of times there’s either behind that separation, there’s either like shadow, there are some lessons to be learned there. There’s some lessons coming through that that path and that dynamic for those people or the literally just flew out
Honey Smith Walls 7:17
So glad that I’m not the only one that happens to.
Kay Tummino 7:21
That happens all the time. And you know what I? I again boundaries, right? I’ve decided that I’m going to be really kind of myself when that happens.
Honey Smith Walls 7:29
Right.
Kay Tummino 7:30
Because it does and the harder you scramble to get it back it’s it’s not gonna come but I do believe in that eureka theory where you start thinking in a different direction and then it might pop back up later.
Honey Smith Walls 7:41
That’s what my grandmother always said. Anyway, I love that you reference your grandmother and I’m still looking at all your Instagram pictures. I’m not really on Instagram. You know, I’ve got an account but I’m not really on it and all your pictures are just so wonderful. And I think I saw your grandmother in there too.
Kay Tummino 8:00
Yes,
Honey Smith Walls 8:00
My grandmother was such an instrumental person in my love in my ability to love and forgive.
Kay Tummino 8:11
It came back.
Honey Smith Walls 8:13
Oh good.
Kay Tummino 8:15
Actually, because you said the magic word you said love. And I think some of that some of that grandmother medicine brought it right back.
Honey Smith Walls 8:22
Oh man.
Kay Tummino 8:23
So I was saying when I when I speak to folks who have a loved one that they’re currently separated from. A lot of times it’s either there’s a lot of like shadow and lessons on that path that are coming through for those people and playing themselves out or it is that uunconditional love underneath is playing itself out whether it’s someone practicing unconditional love for themselves, or maybe they may be in a very shadowy part of their journey. And this is how they access that frequency of love. Just remembering that it’s super nonlinear. It’s super messy. Anytime you’ve been in a transformational time in your own life, for sure was also super messy.
Honey Smith Walls 9:04
Golly, no kidding.
Kay Tummino 9:06
Yeah, it’s great to shine that light back in. Thank you so much for bringing the grandmothers and the grandmother medicine into the circle.
Honey Smith Walls 9:15
They’re so precious and so needed. Their love is so needed in the children. I’m always amazed at how important my grandmothers were to me as a child. I don’t know why I’m amazed I just you know, I the lessons were just so precious and they just loved us so, you know.
Kay Tummino 9:43
Absolutely. I think they taught us a lot about unconditional love. And especially grandmothers being like the feminine energy throughout a time that was less receptive of feminine energy. I feel like they have a lot of lessons about how to move with grace. How to how to receive, how to be soft with yourself or with other people in spite of what may be a very turbulent environment I’m specifically thinking of, of my paternal grandmother right now. She She grew up in in the midst of World War II in Italy, and was was like, you know, she lived in a cave for a time, you know, everyone she had quite the journey and just to to as a girl, as a young woman, as a woman to be part of that path and to continue to lead with love, with intuition, with softness. Incredibly admirable.
Honey Smith Walls 10:56
That’s an amazing story. So many stories of courage and survival. You know, that, that we as first world children have not had to struggle with but my own grandmother too. And my, my own grandmother would ride a horse bareback along a country road into the little township in Indian Territory where she was a teacher, and she would pick up four or five little kids on the way early in the morning to get there, the schoolhouse to start the fire before all the other kids came. And so, you know, those incredible pick and my and my grandfather taught me how to live in a cave, just in case he said, there’s ever a war, another world war. And so they bought property that had a running creek on it that had a cave on it that you know, had enough wilderness and and batches of trees and thing fruit trees and stuff like that, you know, that were edible and had enough property that you could, you know, find food and source for you know, eating.
So they were very much still in the mindset of survival after the last war too, and I’m sure that does a lot to your psyche.
Kay Tummino 12:32
Naturally, naturally, and that’s why it’s really admirable when we think about these ancestors that show up for us with so much. They come through as very unconditionally loving for us, when we consider the amount of survival, hardship living,
Honey Smith Walls 12:50
Right
Kay Tummino 12:51
Exactly the hardships that they experience. I’ll also say that, like my grandfather, you know, God bless him is still living and he is one of the happiest people I know.
Honey Smith Walls 13:02
Yeah.
Kay Tummino 13:03
He really taught me about that. That I call it a technology now just because my my my vocabulary is kind of expanded that gratitude is a technology. And my grandfather really taught me a lot about that. Every single day, he would look at the shoes and he’d be like, you know, grateful to have shoes on your feet. And it made me realize he grew up without the shoes on his feet.
Honey Smith Walls 13:27
Yep.
Kay Tummino 13:27
I’m grateful for all the food in the plate and in the pot in the cupboard and you know, everything. Really taught me to when all else fails as well like when your when your souls hurting a bit. To access that frequency of gratitude that that’s why it’s literally a technology. It’s a technology because first of all, gratitude naturally raises your vibration. So it affects what you attract towards you in a good way. But secondly, gratitude is also an opportunity for you to shift your perspective.
Honey Smith Walls 14:00
Certainly is.
Kay Tummino 14:01
So powerful.
Honey Smith Walls 14:02
Yes, it is. Yeah, that’s a great that’s, yeah, that’s a great angle to look at it from because if shifting your attitude is I don’t even have a descriptor word. It’s just so important. Yeah, it’s a game changer. It absolutely yeah.
Kay Tummino 14:24
Yeah. For lack of better term. Yeah.
Honey Smith Walls 14:26
Right.
Kay Tummino 14:28
Yes, certainly. It it because it really boils down to and this is what I describe a lot of people when they first talked to me about the things that they desire, and possibly the transformation that they’re desiring. That everything changes when you sit in the driver’s seat of your own life. We are again, that’s part of the program. It’s very much part of the programming to believe that life is a thing that happens to us. With the words life is the thing that happens to us, instead of life being a thing that happens through us.
Honey Smith Walls 15:07
Kay, I have said for the past 30 years that most people just get slapped upside the head with life.
Kay Tummino 15:17
Yeah.
Honey Smith Walls 15:17
And and don’t…
Kay Tummino 15:18
Stay that way.
Honey Smith Walls 15:19
And they stay that way. That way.
Kay Tummino 15:23
And that’s a great analogy, because, you know, think about it if everyone got knocked out at the same time. Would everyone come to at the same time?
Honey Smith Walls 15:33
EI don’t think so. Everybody so different. Yeah.
Kay Tummino 15:39
Everybody’s different. Some people are gonna be out for a long time. Some people might be a quick little nap. You know?
Honey Smith Walls 15:49
Awareness is not a choice as much as it is a recognition. I think this there’s this there’s this commercial on TV that on the news channel that I watch that says shoot, just let my head first word is anyway, the whole point being that, that living your life is a choice that you can make, but you got to understand, oh, that’s the word understanding is a choice. No, I disagree. You, you you understand at the exact second of recognition of truth of an idea or falsity of an idea. That’s not a choice. It is recognition is not a choice. You either recognize it or you do not. So understanding is recognizing something to be true or not. Am I wrong?
Kay Tummino 16:58
Yeah, no, I mean…
Honey Smith Walls 17:00
Go ahead.
Kay Tummino 17:01
And you’re making sense. You’re making all the sense. I was just circling, I was thinking back to this started with awareness. And I go, I agree, like under- understanding is I agree with you. It’s not necessarily a choice because it’s something that happens. you deem that you’ve understood when you’ve collected enough information that like literally, it hits all the sensors in your brain and they say green light go.
Honey Smith Walls 17:30
Yeah, Yes!
Kay Tummino 17:31
Right. Yes. as right as opposed to awareness. Awareness, definitely, I would say is a choice. And it’s that it’s it’s a way awareness as a way to shift where you are in the in the vehicle.
Honey Smith Walls 17:46
So I see how you’re looking at it.
Kay Tummino 17:47
Getting into that driver’.
Honey Smith Walls 17:49
Yes. If we could push awareness aside and say, I’m just gonna not pay any attention to that right now. But when we bring the awareness vehicle to ourselves, then there’s mindfulness about it. And you’re thinking you’re consciously focusing on it and thinking about it and trying to make it better or or real or something.
Kay Tummino 18:18
Yeah. And again, words or words are funny fickle things.
Honey Smith Walls 18:25
I feel like you know so much more about me than I do about you before we ever get on the phone or anything. I just I don’t know how you managed to you. I feel your awareness all over me.
Kay Tummino 18:44
Well, I will say this and this is something that I I get what you’re saying because I would have that experience a lot of the times when I connect with people and self introspection, looking at yourself and practicing awareness, you know, throughout all of your interactions and really learning. You know, I’m just a researcher in the back of my brain all the time, no matter if you’d be traditionally in a research role or as a shamanic practitioner and sound healer and all that. And, you know, the researcher in me is, is always kind of looking at my experience without attachment or judgment and very soft and kind with myself, or I try to be sometimes I have to remind myself to be but I will say that the depths of understanding my experience has led to the levels of compassion and understanding that I’m now able to experience with other beings.
So it truly comes from knowing myself because and then this is going to be one of those big you know, blows everything wide open thing, but at the end of the day, I’m you and you are me.
Honey Smith Walls 19:59
Mind blown.
Kay Tummino 20:00
So as I know myself, that’s how I’m gonna better know you. That’s how I’m gonna better know you know, the crow on the tree outside the tree itself. And everyone I walked by on the street. That’s, that’s a really big part of the practice is first of all detaching from your experience so that you can truly learn from it. And be part of be on this path without, you know, like taking a lot of I used to take everything very personally, I was very, very sensitive. I mean, I’m still a very sensitive person, very sensitive and in a lot of kind of ouchie ways, and I used to take things very personally. So that was a big lesson for me. On my path was having the distance between my experience and myself so that I was able to really learn from what was going on.
And then it was also shared with me for several of my teachers, there would be times where I would be experiencing really really, really intense levels of discomfort or pain. And the answer to why is, is essentially…
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Kay Tummino 3:57
This level of suffering is necessary for the levels of compassion that you need to have on your journey.
Honey Smith Walls 4:04
There It is. It’s a lesson. There it is. It’s a lesson you need to know and that’s how I’d begun to look at everything in my life. It is it was a lesson I needed to know. That’s why I’m not afraid of this dark horse that’s entered my life. I’m not afraid of him. And I know what I need to give him and now I understand the boundary that I must keep as well to maintain my own inner safety.
Kay Tummino 4:38
And this person appearing in your life is also a testament.
We spoke before about how when the teacher is ready the student appears when the student’s ready the teacher appears most student and teacher again are just very they’re funny kind of words when the fact of the matter is any true teacher knows they learn from their students. Right? Of course. So you know whether you’re viewing it as this this person shows up in your life as the teacher or as the student. And that lesson does not have to be long or short at all. Sometimes it’s literally just the awareness that’s brought the the the change in energy, because I’ve definitely sensed the change in energy around sort of approaching this situation.
Honey Smith Walls 5:26
Yeah.
Kay Tummino 5:26
That’s invaluable. And that really teaches us I mean, there’s a lot of lessons there. But one of the biggest lessons as well is to really to trust our intuition and continue to strengthen that as a muscle. Because when we have red flags or when we have things that are pulling all our attention to something it’s usually for very good reason. And then you know, determining that reason and being kind to yourself as you as you kind of continue the journey that’s very important as well. But also really again, this is a way to show yourself unconditional love and it’s it’s…I always compare intuition to like a muscle because it really does. It’s it’s practice and it’s strengthening it.
But unconditional loving unconditionally loving yourself. Really definitely equates to honoring your intuition. If you feel like something is off if you feel like something is concerning you. There’s a good reason for it and you’re actually showing yourself unconditional love by by, by giving that attention and…
Honey Smith Walls 6:36
By acknowledging it.
Kay Tummino 6:37
Believing. exactly, you’re believing in yourself. I mean, it’s it’s silly to think but it’s true. A lot of times with intuition. That’s what it is, is it’s a voice inside of our head. And then we say no, I’m going to not believe that. I’m going to wait for more evidence or I’m going to wait for someone else to tell me or or whatever it may be. Right and then. So eventually it’s layers of starting to hear that voice and just saying I’m not going to say no to you because you’ve taught me time and time again, right that you’re usually speaking truth for me and it’s really important.
Showing ourselves unconditional love through acknowledging intuition as well really helps us to determine when people show up on our path, you know, throughout the lessons and the blessings.
Honey Smith Walls 7:25
Kay, I feel like I’ve been through a really tremendous therapy session. I just want to thank you for it.
But my next question is, you know, how do you I’m your student now suddenly I you know, I I suddenly need to listen to you quite more frequently and hear you and be with you and hang out and just find out. You know what, you know what, what I’m here to learn from you, because obviously I am but you know how many other people are there out there like me, who are wanting to learn from you? Are you teaching are you what are you doing? With all of this fantastic insight and knowledge and verve for life and love that you have?
Kay Tummino 8:22
Yes, thank you. Yeah, there are so your first question. Are there people like you? There are countless people like you. Who are, they have an awareness that they’re on the path essentially before you even before you were even given this language or something that was going on?
Honey Smith Walls 8:43
Yes. Yeah.
Kay Tummino 8:45
And sometimes people can even trace that knowing all the way back to childhood. And again, it’s a lot of understanding that programming and things like that.
So there are countless like truly more there are more experiencing this than not. Truly. Which is pretty, pretty amazing to think of.
Honey Smith Walls 9:06
And a good thing.
Kay Tummino 9:07
Yeah, certainly, in terms of my offerings and what I do. So I have a practice called Journey Drum Healing. Arts. And through that practice, I offer group sound healings currently locally in Massachusetts where I live, but I’m also going to be extending those sound healings and those shamanic journeying sessions, to an online to a digital offering as well. In the future, outside right now. Yeah, cuz then that’s really going to allow an expansion and the vibration to to really expand. So that’ll be really beautiful.
Honey Smith Walls 9:46
Yeah.
Kay Tummino 9:48
I also offer I use the cannabis tarot, or I shouldn’t say use I connect with and work together with cannabis tarot. Powerful words are powerful. Indeed, I work together with the cannabis tarot and with a lot of other powerful divination tools, and I offer intuitive Oracle readings. Whether they be 30 minutes or 60 minutes and then also specifically with the cannabis tarot, I offer a session reading. So it’s an hour long. We hop on a Zoom together, we connect with cannabis together and then I bring out the cards and we also get into a whole reading and all these messages that want to come through from cannabis plant spirit for you, I’m able to be clear channel for them. So that’s a really beautiful experience that I offer as well.
And then overall through my practice as well, I offer one-on-one just for for folks like you Honey who they just want to ask a lot of questions and they want to learn they want to try things for themselves and they want to have that experience of having a having a friend. I like to be a friend.
Honey Smith Walls 10:54
Yeah.
Kay Tummino 10:54
Ya know.
Honey Smith Walls 10:54
Yeah, everybody.
Kay Tummino 10:55
Yeah. And really encourage them to try these new things, too.
Honey Smith Walls 10:59
I like to be a friend to everybody and not ever said that out loud. But I love hearing it from you.
Kay Tummino 11:06
Oh, well. I’m really glad to hear it out loud.
Honey Smith Walls 11:09
Yeah, I like to hear it out loud.
Kay Tummino 11:11
Yeah, that’s excellent. Journey drum healing art started for me three years ago, and essentially everything I do, no matter what the service is. It’s it’s built around three real staples. And the first of which is to be to bring whoever I’m working with closer to the Earth. So that’s the Earth itself, plants, animals, people, all circles of life, a big lesson in shamanism that we are all truly connected and related.
Honey Smith Walls 11:42
It is a big lesson exactly.
Kay Tummino 11:45
That we each have this very medicinal part in these circles of life. So that’s one sort of big, big focus of my practice. The second is to strengthen that intuition muscle what we just talked about.
Honey Smith Walls 11:58
Yes.
Kay Tummino 11:58
How to use intuition. Or not, I don’t want to say us again, we’re gonna know Yeah, how to activate and strengthen your
Honey Smith Walls 12:06
There you go. I had a flag at that word, too. When you said it.
Kay Tummino 12:09
Yeah, that’s good to acknowledge those flags. That’s telling you Nope, we could be making a better choice.
Honey Smith Walls 12:15
A better choice.
Kay Tummino 12:16
An empowering choice because notice how much it changed your vibration.
Honey Smith Walls 12:20
And it did.You just think Yeah.
Kay Tummino 12:23
Yeah exactly. So strengthening that intuition muscle is another pillar of the practice. And again, that’s showing yourself unconditional love and the more you strengthen that intuition muscle, the more you’re going to be confidently practicing shamanism yourself in your life, and really moving forward on that path as well. And then the third pillar is to heal each other, heal the earth and raise the collective frequency of this planet. And that’s kind of a big one.
But like I said, we all are healers truly. And each one of my I don’t call them students, but everybody that I work together with and we co-create, I call them co-creators, because we co-create healing.
Honey Smith Walls 13:05
Yes.
Kay Tummino 13:05
Not just co-creating the healing of that individual.
Honey Smith Walls 13:08
Right.
Kay Tummino 13:09
It’s also healing parts of me too, because I am a teacher and I’m learning from the student and that that whole you know, model, there’s invaluable, you know, nuggets…
Honey Smith Walls 13:20
Right, right.
Kay Tummino 13:23
…for me. And then in doing that, in this beautiful interaction we are literally we’re both vibrating higher.
Honey Smith Walls 13:31
Yes.
Kay Tummino 13:32
At the end of this session, it raises the collective frequency of the planet and by that I mean everyone you go ahead and interact with after and in ways that we may not even consider. The trees that you walk by on your way home. When you go home and you sit in your living room and your your pet, your animal companion comes up to you all these ways that we’re continuing to actually, now that we are vibrating at a different frequency, we’re actually continuing to spread that frequency throughout our planet. So…
Honey Smith Walls 14:07
I believe that that energy it just excites and bubbles and spreads.
Kay Tummino 14:12
Indeed, indeed. And truly, I call what I do mission work, because it’s it’s why I’m here on planet Earth to be exactly who I am and to do exactly what I’m doing. And it’s a large part of my mission. And I guess if I had to summarize it, it would be to raise the collective frequency of the planet. So that includes like we said, that includes all circles of life. And that includes strengthening that intuition that innate intelligence in all circles of life and all beings.
Honey Smith Walls 14:52
Well, I’m pretty sure I want to be part of your mission too. I feel the same way you do is all I can say and yet I’m in a, you know, a new the big the, the blossom. This journey that I’m on is is so delicious and remarkable and the the kinship I feel towards this effort is such a glorious mission-based feeling. This just really all bound and in love and wanting the world to be a better place and we can do that through the tools that we have found, you know, on this planet, and within ourselves, right?
Kay Tummino 15:44
Indeed, yes. And I just want to take a moment to to celebrate with you. It’s a really beautiful thing to be in that blossoming part of your journey. And I totally understand too, that not everyone is going to be able to have these celebratory moments for you, right? That’s definitely a part of being on the path is that not everyone around you is going to quote unquote, get it? Because it might not be their time to.
Honey Smith Walls 16:08
Right.
Kay Tummino 16:09
For whatever reason, but I just want to take a moment to have a little party for a very, very excited, I’m so happy to hear that when I when I share my mission and say in those words, that they’re also activation points for you as well.
Honey Smith Walls 16:26
Totally.
Kay Tummino 16:27
And I just want to just reaffirm and confirm you’re a healer, you’re here. This is your mission as well, you know?
Honey Smith Walls 16:34
Makes me cry to hear you say that. Kay, thank you.
Kay Tummino 16:38
You’re so welcome.
Honey Smith Walls 16:40
Well, dear audience, how can how can you get in touch with Kay?
Kay Tummino 16:48
So Instagram would be the easiest way my Instagram.
Honey Smith Walls 16:52
Please go see her Instagram. It’s so fun.
Kay Tummino 16:56
It’s JourneyDrum. So without the healing arts part, just JourneyDrum. That’s my instagram handle. Or you could also get to me through the Cannabistarot Instagram as well. And on my Instagram, there is a link you’re able to directly sign up for and schedule readings with me or one on one sessions to talk about shamanism, all kinds of cool stuff. Or you can always just shoot me an email journeydrumhealingarts@gmail.com and I will be so happy to read your messages and get back to you.
Honey Smith Walls 17:29
Okay, I can’t thank you enough for sharing this time with my audience and all that. Just all this love. You’re so precious to me. Will you come back and visit again?
Kay Tummino 17:42
Of course I will. There’s just so much to explore together.
Honey Smith Walls 17:46
All right, honey. Well thank you again and and I can’t wait for our audience to hear all of this. We’ll come back with you soon. Okay?
Indeed. Alright, take care everybody. Thank you.
Bye.
Kay Tummino 17:58
Bye bye.
Honey Smith Walls 18:08
I don’t know about you, but I just can’t get enough of Kay. And so she and I decided to do a Clubhouse room together. It’s called Rising Cannabis Connections. And it began this morning at eight o’clock Eastern in Clubhouse on that new app. So if you don’t have Clubhouse the app, be sure and get it and then join our Clubhouse room. You can raise your hand and ask questions. It’s all live it’s kind of like live radio. So come on and follow be and be an audience member or or jump up there on stage with us and share your cannabis story. We’re having a ball. Come join Kay Tommino and me, Honey Smith Walls on the brand new Clubhouse room called Rising Cannabis Connections. Mondays eight o’clock Eastern. See you there.
You’ve been listening to another Cannaba Verum podcast with 21st century cannabis shaman Honey Smith Walls about the importance of using verifiably safe products. The process of getting a diagnosis from your family doctor and taking your records to a cannabis specialist can lead you to the correct cannabinoid therapy for those issues. Otherwise, you’re just your own guinea pig looking for answers without any foundational knowledge or ability to determine the best choices or strategies.
To find a qualified cannabis expert in your area, visit cannabisclinicians.org It is a national society of cannabis experts and you’ll see that link down in my show notes.
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You’ve been listening to another Cannaba Verum podcast with 21st century cannabis shaman Honey Smith Walls, about the importance of using safe hemp and marijuana products. The process of taking your records with your symptoms and diagnosis to a cannabis specialist can lead you to the correct cannabinoid therapy for your best results.
Otherwise, you’re just your own guinea pig looking for answers without any foundational knowledge or ability to determine the best choices…
Unless otherwise proven by a reputable third party lab test, please be advised that all street weed is contaminated. It may do grave harm to a patient with a delicate immune system.
I challenge you to check the veracity of my statements in each episode by checking the medical citations posted on my blog on the CannabaVerum.com website.
That’s C A N N A B A V E R U M.com
Show Notes:
Kay Tummino helps us understand the divinity in cannabis and becoming a shaman. It is a spiritual journey my new friend will happily explain from her many years of insight. But I didn’t look at it that way till I met Kay. I was just a person who knew a little more than most about cannabis after intense study over the past 6 years. But our new friend gives us pause to consider so much more… There is spirit in cannabis. It is a live plant that communicates with other live creatures in many different ways. We simply cannot deny that. So with the spirit of cannabis in mind, Kay tells me in no uncertain terms, I am on my shamanic path with this plant. I hope you enjoy the depths of cannabis spirit in today’s episode of Cannaba Verum. Please contact Kay Tummino at journeydrumhealingarts@gmail.com and find her on Instagram as Journey Drum. The Society of Cannabis Clinicians – https://www.cannabisclinicians.org/. Helpful Sources:
Brevard Neuro Center
Anthony Mazo, M.D.
(321) 733-2711
315 E. Nasa Blvd.
Melbourne, FL 32901.
Microdosing – https://healer.com/cbd-cannabis-dosage-guide-project-cbd-interview-with-dr-sulak/
Concentrates – https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29307505/
Cannabis Helps Dementia Podcast – Anchor.FM/cannabishelpsdementia
Society of Cannabis Clinicians – https://www.cannabisclinicians.org/
Take the Pledge – GreenTakeover.com.
NCIA’s Cannabis Industry VOICE (CannabisRadio.com) CannabisHelpsDementia.com
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21698778/
Handbook for Clinicians – Principles and Practice – https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393714180
The Cannigma Podcast: https://cannigma.com/podcast/behind-the-scenes-on-cannabis-normalization-with-jm-pedini/
Equality Florida: https://www.eqfl.org/. Brevard Renaissance Fair: brevardrenaissancefair.com
All opinions are my own and should not be mistaken as medical advice.
Sources:
Cannaba Verum is Latin for Cannabis Truth. Sourcing factual information about cannabis hasn’t always been easy for a variety of reasons. However now because of modern innovations, it is. My sources are from leaders in cannabis science like:
Roger Adams, U.S. Organic Chemist who isolated the structure of CBD,
Raphael Mechoulam, Israeli Organic Chemist who isolated the structure of THC,
Ethan Russo, Dir R&D International Cannabis and Cannabinoids Institute
Dustin Sulak, DO – my favorite doctor at healer.com, teaching the art of Cannabis Healing to the world, and other industry greats like:
Rev. Dr. Kymron DeCesare, Ed Rosenthal, Jack Herer, Michael Backes, and Michael Pollen and so many more… plus I use classical sites like: PubMed.gov, JAMAnetwork.com, ResearchGate.com. I listen to several daily podcasts to keep up with the latest cannabis news across the nation and throughout the world like: The Great Shea Gunther at MJTodayDaily.com and MarijuanaMoment.net. I trust the CBDProject.org and CannabisScienceTech.com. I watch the National Cannabis Industry Association (NCIA) at: thecannabisindustry.org and many more like: NCIA’s Cannabis Industry VOICE (CannabisRadio.com)
Over past episodes of Cannaba Verum, we’ve listened to some amazing scientists and medical professionals talk about their discoveries and patient successes as hundreds of questionable compounds rise to the public grasp. I am especially interested in the pharmacists movement becoming an integral part of this new medicinal choice.
Watch this machine roll into action through conversations with pharmacy doctors all over the nation.
You’ll find Citations available on my podcast blog at cannabaverum.com
PS: Helping society get past the fear of using cannabis will be a lifelong journey for me. This industry is just opening up and most patients and doctors are completely cannabis naive and need help understanding where to turn for trustworthy information.
If you need help opening that cannabis discussion with your family doctor, please reach out and grab the Dear Doctor Letter I wrote for this exact purpose. It will explain your decision to try cannabis and ask for their help in monitoring your labs and progress. It will also show them where they can find medical research on the subject of your diagnosis and the effects of cannabis.
You’ll find that letter at cannabaverum.com And it’s free to use as you wish.
- Microdosing – https://healer.com/cbd-cannabis-dosage-guide-project-cbd-interview-with-dr-sulak/
- Concentrates – https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29307505/
- Cannabis Helps Dementia Podcast – Anchor.FM/cannabishelpsdementia
- Society of Cannabis Clinicians – https://www.cannabisclinicians.org/
- Take the Pledge – GreenTakeover.com
- Handbook for Clinicians – Principles and Practice – https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393714180
- The Cannigma Podcast = https://cannigma.com/podcast/behind-the-scenes-on-cannabis-normalization-with-jm-pedini/
- Curious About Cannabis Podcast = https://cacpodcast.com/
My Neurologist and Cannabis Expert Medical Marijuana Doctor:
Anthony Mazo, M.D.
Brevard Neuro Center
(321) 733-2711
315 E. Nasa Blvd.
Melbourne, FL 32901.
All opinions are my own and should not be mistaken as medical advice.
